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posted by n1 on Monday August 08 2016, @03:17AM   Printer-friendly
from the representation-is-a-privilege dept.

Ballot Access News reports:

On August 5, U.S. District Court Judge Rosemary Collyer, a Bush Jr. appointee, ruled against Gary Johnson and Jill Stein in their debates lawsuit. The case had been filed on September 28, 2015, and is Johnson v Commission on Presidential Debates, U.S. District Court, D.C., 1:15cv-1580.

[...] The 27-page decision[Redirects to a PDF] [...] says, "Because Plaintiffs have no standing and because antitrust laws govern commercial markets and not political activity, those claims fail as a matter of well-established law."

[...] Footnote three, based on the judge's own research (or the research of her clerks), has factual errors. The judge relied on election returns published by the FEC, but the FEC returns do not say which candidates were [...] in states with a majority of electoral college votes, and the opinion's list of candidates is erroneous.

[...] Another factual error in the decision is on page 21. The decision says Ralph Forbes, an independent candidate for U.S. Senate, lost a case over debates in the U.S. Supreme Court in 1998. Actually Forbes was a candidate for U.S. House.

In the comments, Richard Winger notes a similar case.

the lawsuit Level the Playing Field v FEC is still pending, before another judge, in the same court

The presidential debates were previously moderated by the League of Women Voters (1976, 1980, 1984). The Democrats and Republicans screwed things up in 1988. The Commission on Presidential Debates, a corporation controlled by the Democratic and Republican parties, has run each of the presidential debates held since 1988.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @05:55AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @05:55AM (#385652)

    That's the problem with centrist ideology

    Except thats not the ideology of the political center at all. The ideology of the political center is that there is no ideology and instead some problems are handled conservatively and some problems are handled liberally, whichever is the best approach to handle that specific problem, rather than strictly sticking to one ideology based on tribalism and ideological purity. What you describe is exactly what you said it was, fallicious thinking.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @09:56PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @09:56PM (#385987)

    Terms like "liberal" and "conservative" have no concrete definitions. They are vaguely-defined at best. So these "centrists" have the same problem as "liberals" and "conservatives" have: They are obsessed with labels.