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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday August 09 2016, @05:12PM   Printer-friendly
from the we-always-knew-there-were-benefits dept.

Australian Broadcast Corp reports:

Research released from RMIT [Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology] University has found gaming helps boost results in maths, science and reading.

But researchers said scrolling through Facebook, Instagram or chat sites had the reverse effect, by hindering academic success in high school.
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Associate Professor Posso used data from the Program for International Student Assessment (PISA) to analyse the online habits of 12,000 Australian 15 year olds, which he then compared to their academic results.

He said the PISA data revealed that online gaming helped young people develop analytical and problem-solving skills.
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Perhaps unsurprisingly, the study found spending hours on social media was mostly wasted time for teenagers, in terms of academic performance.

Australian teenagers who used Facebook or chat sites every day scored 20 points worse in maths than students who never used social media, the research said.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by meustrus on Tuesday August 09 2016, @05:19PM

    by meustrus (4961) on Tuesday August 09 2016, @05:19PM (#385852)

    Perhaps unsurprisingly, the study found spending hours on social media was mostly wasted time for teenagers, in terms of academic performance.

    Well sure. But there are other kinds of performance. I for one wish that my primary and secondary education had focused a lot more on the soft skills like communication, networking, and empathy. Skills which this study automatically labels "waste".

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @05:24PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @05:24PM (#385858)

    All you need to know about soft skills is people are dumb animals and words do not have any meaning. Tone of voice and body posture are all that matter. If you bark your words like a dog and sit with a slouch like a dog then people will react like you are a rabid dog. Expect failure in life unless you are obedient like a dog.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Zz9zZ on Tuesday August 09 2016, @05:56PM

      by Zz9zZ (1348) on Tuesday August 09 2016, @05:56PM (#385877)

      A lot of this. Sure there are more complicated pieces to the social puzzle, but just don't be an asshole and do nice things for friends you care about.

      I've seen so many people who have the "charming" personality down pat and they can say and do fucked up things for a while before most realize they are a shitty person. Besides, I don't think social media is a good educator for socializing beyond the superficial interactions you'll have with people at the supermarket or a party. In my opinion the social skills most sorely lacking are empathy and open mindedness, not usually promoted by social media. In my jaded view social media promotes narcissistic behaviors and sheep mentality.

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      • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @06:12PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @06:12PM (#385885)

        I learned all my social skills from Fred Rogers, Martin Luther King, and Star Trek, so you can imagine how I'm completely unwelcome in society. Nobody likes me just the way I am.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @06:59PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @06:59PM (#385909)

          Mr. Rogers never said everyone would, just that he does. He was also not your average Joe and probably disliked by a lot of people who felt called out by his general "goodness". Sadly the only way people like one another is if we fit into the small bubble of "normal" that the other person expects. Most people are in the same general bubble, but think or behave outside that bubble and at best you're interesting but still not socially accepted.

          I've met so many people who parrot the line "I never trust a man who doesn't curse or doesn't drink." Sure, that has some element of truth to it, but its mostly garbage. Often those people have some serious defects themselves and don't even know it. Pairs well with "don't be a rat". Yes, because we should let fucked up things happen because people don't like being "told on". Buncha dangerous motherfucking babies!

        • (Score: 2) by mendax on Wednesday August 10 2016, @12:19AM

          by mendax (2840) on Wednesday August 10 2016, @12:19AM (#386045)

          I learned all my social skills from ... Star Trek....

          Yeah, the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition are a great guide of how to behave in society. And James Kirk provides many examples of how to seduce women, although I have often wondered how he boinked them in his quarters on that small bed. Perhaps they did it on the floor.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 11 2016, @06:10AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 11 2016, @06:10AM (#386530)

            They just omitted that all that kinky bondage gear he had in the 'Mirror Universe' was actually in his quarters in the 'Regular Universe' :)

            Ahh to live through the 60s again :)

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @06:49PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @06:49PM (#385905)

        I thought the point of developing a charming personality was specifically for the purpose of doing shitty things to other people, disarming them so you can negotiate things that fuck them over while lining your pocketbook, you know shitty things that just happen to make you a bit richer every day....

        If there's anything I've learned, honesty is the worst policy. It's completely unprofitable, it can blow up in your face, and it's too easy to forget that you're the only schmuck in the room being honest or who even gives a flying fuck about honesty. Learn how to seem sincere and you can get away with murder... or storing classified data on a private personal email server... you know, whatever it takes to get richer.

        (Didn't start the comment expecting to go there, but wound up there anyway so I'll just leave it that way. But I mean, let's face it. Money is freedom. If you don't have money, you don't have freedom. Does it really matter how you managed to break above the paycheck to paycheck work for somebody else at a job you fucking hate with incompetent dipshits and what the fuck is this a jobs program or something how the fuck are these people even employable.... Does it really matter how you got free of that shit? I just personally wouldn't want to be a household name. Just some independently wealthy eccentric.)

      • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Wednesday August 10 2016, @01:01AM

        by meustrus (4961) on Wednesday August 10 2016, @01:01AM (#386050)

        Besides, I don't think social media is a good educator for socializing beyond the superficial interactions you'll have with people at the supermarket or a party.

        It's too bad we won't get any scientific data on that hypothesis of yours. Time spent exercising soft skills is "wasted" according to anybody who'd care about research.

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        • (Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Wednesday August 10 2016, @05:40PM

          by Zz9zZ (1348) on Wednesday August 10 2016, @05:40PM (#386331)

          There are plenty of researches who care about this, but such skills are hard to quantify and have a really large number of variables. Only the hardcore physicists and mathematicians don't care about soft skills, they take pride in their own arrogance and lack of people skills.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @07:17PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @07:17PM (#385918)

    Sounds disgusting. Maybe they could try that at a filthy normie school, but I want to learn more about academic subjects.

    If you want to know what social media (like Facebook) does, it abuses its users and destroys privacy.

  • (Score: 1) by Type44Q on Tuesday August 09 2016, @11:39PM

    by Type44Q (4347) on Tuesday August 09 2016, @11:39PM (#386034)

    With all due respect, that was largely your parents' job...

    • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Wednesday August 10 2016, @12:58AM

      by meustrus (4961) on Wednesday August 10 2016, @12:58AM (#386049)

      Oh yeah, parents can absolutely teach you how to interact with peers. There's absolutely nothing they cannot provide when it comes to human interaction because parents are capable of the full range of human relationships and experiences. </sarcasm>

      Schools exist for a reason, and that reason is to teach children what parents lack time/teaching skills/knowledge to teach. The only other subject I've seen dismissed like this as "parents should teach it" is sex education. That is its own problem but at least it's a subject the parent might not want the school teaching. Soft skills, not so much.

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