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Common Dreams reports
In a much-hailed, if modestly problematic, act of righteous revenge, [on Thursday August 4,] an African-American inmate allegedly sucker-punched [...] Dylann Roof--an act that sparked much online praise for the "vigilante hero", a fundraiser for donations to his commissary account, and, finally, the posting of his $100,000 bond by a supporter.
Roof is in protective custody at the Charleston County Detention Center for killing nine African-American churchgoers in South Carolina in 2015. He was in the shower when Dwayne Stafford, a 26-year-old inmate reportedly doing time for either weed violations or strong arm burglary, allegedly got out of his cell, reached Roof, and landed a couple of punches to his face. The sheriff said Roof was attacked "for no reason", which many would argue was less than accurate.
Roof suffered only minor injuries, and his lawyer declined to press charges.
[...] The next day, 18 months after he'd originally been arrested, an anonymous supporter posted [Stafford's] bond, and on Friday he was reportedly freed.
I find that heavy.com typically has the facts quickly on violent crimes.
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(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday August 09 2016, @10:34PM
Two separate issues here, compared:
1. Roof didn't like someone and took his 'revenge'.
2. Someone didn't like Roof and took his 'revenge'
Isn't this the same issue, except for that the second 'revenge' was VERY much less than a pound of flesh, and that the second 'revenge' happened BECAUSE of what Roof did?
I look at Paul Bernardo and what's her fuck that was way smarter than Bernardo and pinned the whole thing on him while she got off scrotum free.
They had them on video: they had them in that video torturing, raping and killing these young girls.
He's doing time (where he SHOULD IMHO be GETTING IT UP HIS ASS WITHOUT LUBE EVERY DAY OF HIS LIFE as well as other things).
She's off having fun and HAVING KIDS OF HER FUCKING OWN AND PROBABLY GETTING THEM DRUNK AND RAPING THEM, JUST LIKE SHE DID WITH HER OWN SISTER!!!.
They both do not deserve 'prison terms'. They both deserve torture and pain and rape and degradation and then, maybe after the families think they have suffered enough, be put to death.
That my taxes are supporting him is SHAMEFUL. That they are both have 'rights' is SHAMEFUL.
That they both haven't been killed (in prison (him) and on the street (her)) is SHAMEFUL.
They HAVE NO RIGHTS, because THEY decided to take away these poor girls RIGHTS and did what they did to them.
I was glad to hear that one of the girls refused to do what they asked because she knew they would only kill her anyways. At least SOMEONE stood up to them and gave them what they deserved.
If the evidence is beyond contention like it was for them..... FUCK THEM: THEY HAVE NO NO NO NO NO RIGHTS.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @11:42PM
Toby Zeigler:
Mr. President, this next question is on capital punishment, which you oppose: If your youngest daughter Zoey was raped and murdered, would you not want to see the man responsible put to death?
[President Bartlet completely muffs the response [tripod.com] (a la Michael Dukakis).]
Toby Zeigler:
I just mentioned your daughter being murdered, and you're giving us an answer that's not only soporific, it's barely human!
Yes, you'd want to see him put to death.
You'd want it to be [both] cruel and unusual, which is why it's probably a good idea that fathers of murder victims don't have legal rights in these situations.
N.B. Aaron Sorkin is a genius.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 09 2016, @11:49PM
an appropriate punishment in that case would be to have them suspended in a sterile glass cage, skin and bones removed, feed by tubing with a fine a stream of capsaicin into the blood, the video of their acts continuously projected into their retinas, on artificial life for as long as we can keep that going
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday August 10 2016, @07:36AM
What the fuck is wrong with you? Seriously, what the fuck? We don't win by sinking to their level and worse--and let me short-circuit any idiotic response from you along the lines of "no one's ever done anything like this to you/your family/your friends;" yes they bloody well have, and you know what? I STILL didn't call for that kind of torture.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 10 2016, @02:43PM
Between your comment and GP, this XKCD [xkcd.com] seemed tangentially oblig.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday August 10 2016, @04:49PM
...yeah, I hadn't seen that one but have the same reaction more or less when a doctor or nurse asks me that. Imagine someone screaming "FIVE! FIVE!" in utter agony, to the confusion of the person asking. A nurse later told me most people in that state say "ten" and ask me what in the hell *would* I consider a ten. My response was "if i can still hear you it's seven or below. If I'm still coherent it's 8 or below. If it's a 9 I'm dying of torture, and if it's a 10 the Muslims are right and I'm in Jahannam." Needless to say I got some weird looks...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Spook brat on Wednesday August 10 2016, @03:22PM
I can take a guess at what's wrong; they're not thinking about how such a punishment would be carried out. All of these people advocating rape and torture are advocating having state-sponsored rapists and torturers on hand to make that happen, or else they're volunteering to do the job themselves. It makes me think of the government assassins in the movie Grosse Pointe Blank who were unclear on the moral line between carrying out their kill mission and making the main character's hit for him to speed things along. [imdb.com]
I don't want rape or torture to be a part of our society AT ALL, and I'm not going to ask anyone to do something to a criminal that I wouldn't be willing to do myself with a clear conscience. The people clamoring for the application of cruel and unusual punishment for capital crimes haven't put much thought into it.
PS - for the record I'm still in favor of a humane execution; it's similar to the mercy killing of a sick animal. I like the idea of N2: effective, efficient, economical, painless, readily available. I don't think they should be a public spectacle; publicizing executions as a deterrent sounds like state terrorism to me, and in some cases (esp. serial killers) may have an effect opposite what's intended.
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