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Facebook is going to start forcing ads to appear for all users of its desktop website, even if they use ad-blocking software. The social network said on Tuesday that it will change the way advertising is loaded into its desktop website to make its ad units considerably more difficult for ad blockers to detect. “Facebook is ad-supported. Ads are a part of the Facebook experience; they’re not a tack on,” said Andrew “Boz” Bosworth, vice president of Facebook’s ads and business platform.
Source: The Wall Street Journal
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 10 2016, @02:25AM
As time goes by, Facebook becomes an ever steamier pile of excrement. There are already stories about youngsters just opting out of Facebook. I don't know why the world doesn't just abandon Facebook.
I'm looking forward to the day that Facebook is talked about in the past tense, much as MySpace is today.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Wednesday August 10 2016, @02:56AM
Recall yourself at the age of 14. Would you go to a party with your mum by your side?
(how would a teenager share her/his "virtual private space" with their parents?)
Because the teenagers-of-yesterday-currently-or-soon-to-be-parents invested too much of their life in FB?
If I'd be FB, I'd be creating (or investing) in the next social platform for the today's kids.
Are you sure they don't do it already?
My point? Seems that the taste for social media is going to stay with us for some while, at least sustained by the kids - nasty creatures they are, gregarious and all that (like the S/N crowd) but with an underdeveloped discerning power and not enough knowledge to arrange an alternative virtual space for their own.
Can you fault them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by Capt. Obvious on Wednesday August 10 2016, @03:52AM
Nonsense, they don't create the next social platform. They just buy it for billions once it proves itself (e.g. Instagram, WhatsApp.)
(Score: 5, Interesting) by c0lo on Wednesday August 10 2016, @04:29AM
May be good enough if it keeps the generations separated.
But again, there will be one such platform which will refuse to sell and maybe capture an entire generation. That platform will be the next FB for a while - this is the very process FB rose to prominence.
There will be no FB-or-equivalent under two circumstances:
the computing and network power gets high enough and the prices for it low enough, somebody writes a platform in which "social media" nodes can be created ad-hoc so easily that any kid can install and manage it. No incentive for kids to join a centralized site
(now, that's an idea)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 5, Informative) by Fnord666 on Wednesday August 10 2016, @08:21AM
the computing and network power gets high enough and the prices for it low enough, somebody writes a platform in which "social media" nodes can be created ad-hoc so easily that any kid can install and manage it. No incentive for kids to join a centralized site
(now, that's an idea)
You mean like this one [diasporafoundation.org] was supposed to be?
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday August 10 2016, @09:47AM
And a bit further, yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 3, Interesting) by TheRaven on Wednesday August 10 2016, @10:02AM
sudo mod me up
(Score: 3, Insightful) by tangomargarine on Wednesday August 10 2016, @03:06PM
and an AGPL reference implementation (a license that basically precludes anyone from looking at the code if they might ever want to implement the protocol).
It's basically the GPL with "no seriously, make sure the source is available" tacked on. Why is that so toxic?
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2) by Fnord666 on Wednesday August 10 2016, @10:44PM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 10 2016, @07:59PM
back in my day, we just set up a BBS
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday August 10 2016, @02:04PM
That IS an idea. Ad-hoc social media. No way I can build on the concept, but it's definitely a good sounding idea. WTF do we need a Facebook to connect people?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 10 2016, @03:06AM
Most people who do not use Facebook do not do so for principled reasons. Until people start demanding privacy and anonymity on principle, even most of those who do not currently use Facebook will simply hop on to yet another "social media" trainwreck. Things like privacy, anonymity, and freedom are simply not valued by most.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Francis on Wednesday August 10 2016, @03:26AM
Considering how much work it is to avoid FB these days, the only people I can think of that aren't on FB or actively avoiding it are in parts of the world where FB is banned or where they are otherwise prevented from accessing it.
It's sickening how many groups and services are dependent upon registration for access. Even more so is how many sites use FB logins as their main or only option for logging in.
(Score: 2) by frojack on Wednesday August 10 2016, @03:58AM
Considering how much work it is to avoid FB these days,
Seriously? I haven't expended any effort at all avoiding facebook. I've never had an account. Ever.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 10 2016, @04:40AM
Seriously? I haven't expended any effort at all avoiding facebook. I've never had an account. Ever.
Ha! That's cute.
You've never created an account, sure. Ever heard of the shadow profiles? As long as any of your family/friends/coworkers are on FB, so are you, whether you know it or not.
How the fuck is that not illegal, I don't know. Fuckerberg and half of his company should spend the rest of their days in federal prison.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by linuxrocks123 on Wednesday August 10 2016, @05:58AM
Why would this be illegal? All Facebook is doing is collating information it acquired legally. It's not illegal in general to collect information about someone, even if that person would rather you not. You have to do something specifically illegal like trespass, stalk, or be a peeping tom to get on the wrong side of the law.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 10 2016, @12:16PM
You have to do something specifically illegal like trespass, stalk, or be a peeping tom to get on the wrong side of the law.
I don't have a FB account, but most of my friends and family do. I'd occasionally get an invitation mail from FB, every few months or so, but I just ignored those.
Then, one nice day a year or two ago, FB went full retard. Over the course of two days, I got more than two dozen invites: "This $person_you_know is on Facebook, why don't you join?" or something. Each invite "from" a different person I know, from all over the world. Needless to say, the second day of this spam-bombing I set up a filter to throw anything from FB straight to spam. I'm sure that the invites continued, but I didn't bother to check.
Now, that probably still doesn't cross into "illegal" territory, but it's a very dark shade of gray, not to mention creepy and obnoxious. I'm also certain it violates some human right or something, but corps don't seem to be bound to those.
Fuck Facebook and fuck Zuckerberg with a rusty spoon.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 10 2016, @12:39PM
Maybe not illegal to the letter (latest paid for interpretation) of the law but a dick move nonetheless... And just like we think people who murder other people are dicks and lock them up for their dickishness, the same should be done to anyone aiding and abetting FB.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Sir Finkus on Wednesday August 10 2016, @04:40AM
I've never had an account. Ever.
Well, not a visible one in any case. But you have a shadow one if anyone who has your contact information in their phone has imported their contacts using the facebook app, or any other number of ways they can create a profile for you.
Join our Folding@Home team! [stanford.edu]
(Score: 2) by frojack on Wednesday August 10 2016, @08:34AM
Any proof?
FB has stated that they do NOT have Shadow profiles for non users
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/46330344/ns/technology_and_science-security/t/social-shadow-profiles-mirror-your-real-life-existence [nbcnews.com]
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 1) by Francis on Thursday August 11 2016, @01:05AM
What do you think those stupid like buttons all over the place are all about.
I'm personally skeptical that they have a real name associated with it, but they definitely do track people who haven't logged in in an effort to better datamine the people that don't willingly hand over the goods.
(Score: 2) by frojack on Thursday August 11 2016, @04:34PM
They aren't about Profiles for Non users. Apparently you've never clicked one. Good job.
Look, why would they need to create a profile for a non user?
The instant a non user signs up and becomes a user, its a minuscule effort for them to scan their system for phone numbers, email addresses, IP addresses, and what ever else the sign up may reveal, looking for friends or mentions.
My wife signed up after decades of ignoring FB. She was inundated with Friend requests, suggested contacts, from other FB users that stupidly and inconsiderately shared their contacts with facebook. It went on for weeks.
One twit somewhere used facebook's addressbook feature on their phone. Your email address/number/list-of-friends was in that list. That leads to a list of names and numbers, that leads to another list, and another. Find a couple of linkages, suggest a friend (and maybe generate some phoney friend requests). Sit back for a few days, rinse, repeat.
Facebook doesn't need shadow accounts. They already have the raw data in other people's accounts.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 10 2016, @05:21PM
And, I bet trying to access that shadow profile would throw you afoul of the US anti-"hacking" laws, since YOU weren't the one who set up that account on you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 10 2016, @11:52PM
I've never had a Facebook account and don't have a cellphone either. I also don't give other people my personal email addresses. I still have no idea if they have a shadow account about me, since I can't possibly know that (and would never use Facebook or want to enter any information to check).
(Score: 3, Funny) by Joe Desertrat on Wednesday August 10 2016, @08:51PM
If Facebook disappears, where will we be able to keep up on such topics as Nevada FEMA Camps, Dirty bomb, Reinette Senum, Nevada County Peeps, Nevada County Vents, Ted Nugent, Chemtrail cures, etc?