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CNN, MSNBC Use Graphics to Fact-Check Trump, Not Clinton

posted by n1 on Saturday August 13 2016, @08:19AM   
from the she-said-he-said-he-didn't-(he-did) dept.

MrPlow writes:

Submitted via IRC for Runaway1956

Television news has long used graphics at the bottom of their screens to identify the people and places in their stories – but with the 2016 presidential race, two networks lately have been injecting analysis into them during their news reporting.

It started in June when Donald Trump denied having said Japan should have nuclear weapons. CNN inserted this snarky line in their chyron:

TRUMP: I NEVER SAID JAPAN SHOULD HAVE NUKES (HE DID)

[...] While fact-checking may or may not be a legitimate new use of the chyron, what is noticeable is a distinct absence of chyron fact-checking for various claims made by Clinton.

For instance, Clinton recently told Fox News' Chris Wallace that FBI Director James Comey had called her answers about her private email use as secretary of state "truthful" – he did not make such a sweeping statement.

Source: FoxNews

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• Re:If We Give Them The Benefit Of The Doubt Re:If We Give Them The Benefit Of The Doubt (Score: 2) by n1 on Saturday August 13 2016, @03:14PM

  by n1 (993) on Saturday August 13 2016, @03:14PM (#387510) Journal

  I have as much respect for Trump as I do Clinton. Fuck all, they're both self-serving assholes who have no intention of representing the public.

  That said, your quote of Trump is not what quote is at all... "He was the founder. His, the way he got out of Iraq was that that was the founding of ISIS, okay?"
  http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/11/politics/donald-trump-hugh-hewitt-obama-founder-isis/ [cnn.com]

  There are problems with that position, but misquoting does nothing to help the situation. Same with how Trump was quoted widely asking the Russians to hack the DNC, he actually asked them to release what they already have. He did not actually ask them to 'hack' anyone from the actual quotes I saw.

  In related news today...

  Here is CNN's New Day host Chris Cuomo explaining how - for Hillary Clinton - "we [CNN] could not help her any more than we have... she's got just a free ride so far with the media."

  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-11/cnn-admits-we-couldnt-help-hillary-any-more-we-have [zerohedge.com]

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• Re:If We Give Them The Benefit Of The Doubt (Score: 4, Insightful) by AthanasiusKircher on Saturday August 13 2016, @03:50PM

  by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Saturday August 13 2016, @03:50PM (#387524) Journal

  There are problems with that position, but misquoting does nothing to help the situation.

  And taking your quotation out of context also doesn't help your argument.

  Let's review what Mr. Trump also said. On August 10th:

  He is the founder of ISIS. He’s the founder of ISIS. He’s the founder. He founded ISIS. And I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton, co-founder.

  On August 11, from your own link, before the passage you quote:

  Trump was asked by host Hugh Hewitt about the comments Trump made Wednesday night in Florida, and Hewitt said he understood Trump to mean "that he (Obama) created the vacuum, he lost the peace."

  Trump objected. "No, I meant he's the founder of ISIS," Trump said. "I do. He was the most valuable player. I give him the most valuable player award. I give her, too, by the way, Hillary Clinton."

  While I agree with you that GP's statement was not a literal quotation (and I don't think it was meant to be), I think that reasonable people listening to Donald Trump's other statements could have understood him to be saying, "No, I meant he's the founder of ISIS," which is actually what he said. Repeatedly.

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• Re:If We Give Them The Benefit Of The Doubt (Score: 1) by tekk on Sunday August 14 2016, @12:08AM

  by tekk (5704) on Sunday August 14 2016, @12:08AM (#387659)

  Ah, that's fair enough I guess. I'd only seen the first part of the quote, not the second.

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