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posted by janrinok on Sunday August 14 2016, @02:47AM   Printer-friendly
from the beer,-bacon-and-bikinis dept.

Halal Supermarket in France Told to Sell Pork and Alcohol or Face Closure

A halal supermarket in France has been ordered to start selling pork and alcohol or face being shut down.

Good Price discount store in north-west Paris has been accused of breaching the conditions of its lease by not acting as a general food store, the local housing authority has claimed.

It argues that the local community in Colombes are not being served properly at the shop if no pork or alcohol products are sold there.

[...] The shop is allegedly prioritising a certain group within society which breaches the country's principles, the authority said.

Source: Metro

Cannes Bans "Burkinis" Over Suspected Link to Radical Islamism

The mayor of Cannes in southern France has banned full-body swimsuits known as "burkinis" from the beach, citing public order concerns.

David Lisnard said they are a "symbol of Islamic extremism" and might spark scuffles, as France is the target of Islamist attacks.

France is on high alert following a series of incidents including July's truck attack in nearby Nice.

Anyone caught flouting the new rule could face a fine of €38 (£33). They will first be asked to change into another swimming costume or leave the beach.

Source: BBC News


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2016, @03:50AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2016, @03:50AM (#387722)

    Well Christian religious law was never anywhere near as brutal

    I lay the rise of organized crime in the US at the feet of Christians as well as the weirdness the US still has towards sex (although that banner is being carried by feminist now).

    Luckily, the west has had a long secular tradition as a pushback against the worst aspects of totalitarian Christianity (abortion clinic bombings weren't that long ago).

    I know Muslims (even the non-separatist black variety). I know Christians. There's good people to be found in both.

    Take a trip to the deep south where the snake-handlers hold court. Tell me that Muslims are really that assbackwards in comparison.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2016, @04:26AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2016, @04:26AM (#387735)

    Well, small nitpick. I gather you're correctly blaming alcohol prohibition for organized crime, but that was more the work of early feminists, though many were also Christian. It took another 50 years or so for feminism to evolve into a religion in its own right that's more an offshoot of Wicca. Ritual genital mutilation as practiced in the USA is squarely the fault of Christians, perhaps with behind-the-scenes urging by the Jews.

    Abortion clinic assaults still trickle in. This nutbar [denverpost.com] popped up recently again. He's expecting that all the aborted fetuses will thank him when he gets to heaven. Granted, suicide bombers probably look sane next to him.

    Otherwise, same here. I gather it's different in France, but I've noticed that a lot of Muslims have successfully integrated over here and are role models, teachers, business owners, community leaders, etc. It's nothing out of the ordinary for me to see a group of women in hijabs going about their grocery shopping at the supermarket. If they're all secretly plotting to implement Sharia law in my town, I guess the wool has been successfully pulled over my eyes to the point I apparently can't even perceive the male escort they're supposed to have.

    Look in the right places, and one can find examples of Christians who are just as pants-on-head stupidcrazy as the Muslims we're all quaking in our boots about.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 14 2016, @05:11AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 14 2016, @05:11AM (#387746) Journal

    Oh-kay. I live in the South. I can go to town anytime, and get a huge argument started, just by talking about the Civil War. I can get a similar argument going by talking about slavery. Oddly, I've never seen any of these snake handler freaks. I only read about them in the papers now and then. I've met more Satanists and wicca than I have met Christian snake handlers.

    Maybe you can be more specific, and tell me where these snake handlers hold court? If you know where they are, I might even take a weekend to go watch them. Maybe I'll take along some sulfur - known to be a snake repellant. Toss a little sulfur here and there around the stage before things get started, just to see how it might make the entertainment even weirder.

    And, it seems necessary to point out here that Muslims in the US are not the same species/flavor/variant to be found throughout the mideast, Asia, and the Pacific. Muslims in the US amount to a very small percentage of the population. In the mideast especially, they are at least 80% of the population.

    Have you ever examined the Salem witch hangings? The "judges" never uncovered a single fact. What happened there was, a bunch of pious people engaged is some rather petty accusations at first, then drove each other into some hysterical excesses. Nothing they did was "legal", but it seemed all right and proper in a moment of hysteria. THIS is what Sharia is all about. You get a bunch of pious people to examine an incident in light of threats, promises, and contradictory guidance from the Quran. Each of these pious people might be reasonable in person, but in the "court", they become something else.

    So, your accused stands in front of a crowd of people, and some religious zealot who has to make examples, to satisfy the hysterical crowd in front of him.

    "Off with his head" becomes reasonable in such an environment.

    Go ahead, take some lessons from Christianity. Go get yourself a book or ten, and study the Salem witch hangings, as well as the legal and religious inquiries into the hangings. Really, analyze the witch hangings. Sharia courts offer us all of the worst of Christianity's most embarrassing incidents.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2016, @07:09AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2016, @07:09AM (#387781)

      Just read the news. it seems a death always shows up every few years.

      http://www.christianpost.com/news/kentucky-snake-handler-bit-during-church-service-refuses-medical-treatment-and-dies-142061/ [christianpost.com]

      • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Sunday August 14 2016, @03:11PM

        by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 14 2016, @03:11PM (#387865) Journal

        I've got nothing against suicide. If he were insisting that someone else not get treated, that would bother me. If he refused to get treated himself, it's just a Darwin Award.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2016, @01:10PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 14 2016, @01:10PM (#387839)

      Maybe you can be more specific, and tell me where these snake handlers hold court?

      Once again Runaway's ignorance of his own environs needs the resources of SoylentNews to bail him out. How can such ignorance survive in the modern world? Any-whooo: Pentacostals. The "burn on the fifth day" people. Protestants, fundamentalists, they take a few lines about how true believers can handle venomous vipers (not the car, idiot) and not be harmed; drink deadly poison, and not die; listen to Fox News, and not be turned into glibbering imbeciles. Turns out, they were wrong about all of these, or what is more likely their own explanation, they lack sufficient faith. You know how much faith it takes to withstand Fox News? Have you ever contemplated what it would be like to pleasure Roger Ailes? This is the level these snake handlers do not rise to, but average Republicans manage to do this every day, some of them twice a day! (And, no, I will not name names. )

      So, we have Catholics, whom most of the wacko (waco?) christians do not consider to be christian. Does the Pope shit in the woods. Then there are the Lutherens, mostly northern, Scandanavian or Kraut types. Of course, there are the Anabaptists sects, Hutterities and Menonnites and Stalagtites: all pacifists and mostly harmless. Regular Baptists not so much. Most of these are the "holy rollers", prone to demonic possession, speaking in tongues and writing bad checks. Then we have the Methodists, Episcopalians, and Anglicans: they think Jesus was British, and that both Trump and Hillary are one of them. Finally, two very bad kinds of christians: Prosperity Gospel, and Identity Christianity. Creflo Dollar thinks Jesus wants you to be rich; pretty obvious he never read the gospels. Rich people burn in hell, along with their money, which is what keeps the hellfires burning, so hell is really not likely to freeze over soon. And then the Identity folks: Neo-Nazis, Jesus was a white guy, because what kind of loser inbreed Aryan type would want to follow a Jewish carpenter? I mean, they would much rather just handle snakes, drink poison, and die! And really, this is the best we can hope for.

          Now, as for the Planet Kolob; Christianity as a means to get a prophet laid! Yeah! And if only there were some way to get it to propagate over generations. Hmmmm?

      So now, Runaway1956 from the Missouri Synod, do you know where the snake-handlers hold court? It is not a reference to a "Conan" movie. Right there, down the gravel street from you! Pentecostals? Assembly of God-ites? Calvary Chapel? Steeple-jackers, Dominionists, Republicans.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday August 14 2016, @03:20PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 14 2016, @03:20PM (#387868) Journal

        You seem to make the mistake of ASSuming that all Pentecostals are snake handlers. In fact, you almost seem to think that all Christians are Pentecostals, and thus, snake handlers.

        Again - I've not seen any of these snake handlers "holding court" anywhere around me. Among the craziest "Christians" I have seen, are Jehovah's Witnesses. We don't even have any Mormon/Latter Day Saints, or similar offshoots near by. One of them tried to move into a town south of Texarkana, but the law snatched his ass up. http://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/texarkana/story/2008/sep/26/fbi-arrests-tony-alamo/87603/ [texarkanagazette.com]

        Snake handlers. Most of the dimmest of rednecks around here think that snake handlers are freaking crazy. They aren't attending any snake handler sermons, shows, conventions, courts, or whatever. I suppose that there might be a few crazies within a hundred miles who believe in that crap, but they aren't building any Snake Handler churches.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2016, @06:34PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2016, @06:34PM (#388315)

          We don't even have any Mormon/Latter Day Saints, or similar offshoots near by.

          You'd be surprised, we're everywhere ;) [lds.org]

          One of them tried to move into a town south of Texarkana, but the law snatched his ass up.

          As they should, Warren Jeffs and his ilk are self-destructive nutjobs. The 10+ Million of the rest of us worldwide are law abiding and want nothing to do with that crowd.

  • (Score: 2) by Bot on Sunday August 14 2016, @06:38AM

    by Bot (3902) on Sunday August 14 2016, @06:38AM (#387770) Journal

    Organized crime and bombing is against the word and example of the Christ.
    What about terrorism (self sacrifice taking out lives of infidel) and the word and example of the Prophet pbuh (peace LOL)?

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