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posted by janrinok on Sunday August 14 2016, @02:47AM   Printer-friendly
from the beer,-bacon-and-bikinis dept.

Halal Supermarket in France Told to Sell Pork and Alcohol or Face Closure

A halal supermarket in France has been ordered to start selling pork and alcohol or face being shut down.

Good Price discount store in north-west Paris has been accused of breaching the conditions of its lease by not acting as a general food store, the local housing authority has claimed.

It argues that the local community in Colombes are not being served properly at the shop if no pork or alcohol products are sold there.

[...] The shop is allegedly prioritising a certain group within society which breaches the country's principles, the authority said.

Source: Metro

Cannes Bans "Burkinis" Over Suspected Link to Radical Islamism

The mayor of Cannes in southern France has banned full-body swimsuits known as "burkinis" from the beach, citing public order concerns.

David Lisnard said they are a "symbol of Islamic extremism" and might spark scuffles, as France is the target of Islamist attacks.

France is on high alert following a series of incidents including July's truck attack in nearby Nice.

Anyone caught flouting the new rule could face a fine of €38 (£33). They will first be asked to change into another swimming costume or leave the beach.

Source: BBC News


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by janrinok on Sunday August 14 2016, @12:57PM

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Sunday August 14 2016, @12:57PM (#387835) Journal

    I don't agree. It is more the case of a lot of people being punished for the actions of only a handful.

    Ted Kaczynski and Timothy McVeigh were home-grown American terrorists - should all Americans be punished for the crimes of those 2 people? Similar examples can be found in many western countries, but we don't blame the rest of the population for events for which they were not responsible.

    Blaming and punishing all Muslims is playing into the hands of the terrorists. How about we return to the state of law where only the guilty are punished? Better that than closing shops because they do not sell pork or alcohol, or banning peoples' dress because it is not what we are used to seeing. Full nudity is permitted on some beaches in Cannes, and topless bathers are commonplace - and entirely legal. Why is wearing clothing offensive? Is being different a crime now?

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  • (Score: 2) by Entropy on Sunday August 14 2016, @09:43PM

    by Entropy (4228) on Sunday August 14 2016, @09:43PM (#387978)

    Until they take responsibility that there is a venomous and useless sect within them, and they eradicate it themselves they need to be held responsible. France and Germany didn't have a terrorist problem until they let a bunch of Syrian cancer into their midst. It was obviously a mistake and they are paying dearly.

    Yes, banning Burkinis is stupid..but trying to eradicate a venomous culture is not. The only real solution is their deportation.

    • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday August 15 2016, @07:03AM

      by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 15 2016, @07:03AM (#388115) Journal

      But the vast majority of immigrants are not involved. ISIS has taken advantage of the situation, including the freedom of travel without needing passports or border controls within Schengen [wikipedia.org] area, to move terrorists throughout Europe.

      Americans allowed the Unabomber and Timothy McVeigh to become terrorists in their own country. Do we blame each individual American for the acts of these terrorists or for not having arrested them? No, but we do allow the government to take appropriate actions to combat terrorism - just as the governments of France, Germany, and elsewhere are doing in theirs.

      • (Score: 2) by Entropy on Monday August 15 2016, @08:45AM

        by Entropy (4228) on Monday August 15 2016, @08:45AM (#388128)

        While the vast majority may not be involved an INCREDIBLE AMOUNT MORE are involved than say, the unibomber...so many more that they are unfortunately a cancer. If 0.01% of americans become the unibomber, it might be 5% or 500x more Islamic people that become terrorists. Also American citizens don't generally go over to other countries and suicide bomb their people.

        • (Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday August 15 2016, @11:41AM

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 15 2016, @11:41AM (#388147) Journal

          While the vast majority may not be involved an INCREDIBLE AMOUNT MORE are involved

          You have based your claim on what evidence? Those that provide shelter or support to terrorists are also breaking the law and are treated as such. However, the numbers involved are very small compared to the size of the population of Europe. How many were actively involved in the 9/11 plot?

          The FBI investigation into the attacks [wikipedia.org], codenamed operation PENTTBOM, was able to identify the 19 hijackers within days, as they made little effort to conceal their names on flight, credit card, and other records. By checking flight manifests and comparing them with other information, like watch lists, customs officials were able to find the names of all 19 hijackers quickly.

          There we undoubtedly others engaged in the planning and support but probably not a large number. The number killed as a result of their actions far exceeds the number of people involved in terrorism in America. If the evidence that has been uncovered so far is reasonably accurate, then the same is true in Europe. A small number of people can affect the perceived level of safety of an entire country.

          This is why terrorism is so successful and we have to be very careful not to inadvertently assist the terrorists by over-reacting against a sizable part of the law abiding public. I cannot accept your claim and have to challenge your assertion of an 'incredible amount more' without seeing your supporting evidence.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2016, @04:10PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 15 2016, @04:10PM (#388238)

      France and Germany didn't have a terrorist problem until they let a bunch of Syrian cancer into their midst.

      Baader-Meinhof, Action Directe, Red Brigades.... how soon they forget once they are locked up.
      Oh, you meant recently. But this is only the latest color of it.