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After a night of violent protests, Milwaukee residents gathered Sunday evening to mourn an armed man shot to death by police and begin the healing process.
Family and friends of Sylville Smith, 23, held a candlelight vigil at the site of Saturday's shooting in a residential area of North Milwaukee.
The shooting triggered unrest in the city's north side Saturday night as protesters torched businesses and threw rocks at officers. Four officers were injured and 17 people were arrested, Mayor Tom Barrett said.
Tensions on Sunday gave way to calls for peace as activists gathered outside the affected businesses.
Smith's sister, Sherelle Smith, condemned violence carried out in her brother's name, saying the community needs those businesses.
Black Lives Shatter
Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/14/us/milwaukee-violence-police-shooting/
(Score: 5, Insightful) by VLM on Monday August 15 2016, @03:30PM
What kills me about BLM is, they don't make enough noise for the truly innocent.
SWPLs think they're all about justice and stuff. Mostly they're just anti-white preaching to the choir.
Its very instructive to note that their reaction to an armed criminal being gunned down as they should be, is to burn down a bunch of white owned businesses.
From the anti-white point of view it makes perfect sense. The SWPLs are getting all confused about it.
Its a pity because even from my somewhat right leaning position, its obvious the black folk are getting screwed over unjustly and have no leadership ability to get anything useful done beyond "burn whiteys buildings down" or "lets have a prayer circle" as if that'll accomplish anything, as if thats ever accomplished anything. If I was a black leader concerned about black men getting gunned down I'd suggest:
1) Telling black men not to be crooks as that seems to encourage random (sometimes innocent) young black men getting gunned down. For PR purposes we need every young black man murdered by the police to have a clean criminal record and be wearing a suit and tie and have a job and always respect themselves and their community by only participating in legal activities in a polite manner. Of course you wonder if cops would gun down young black men by the dozens if they were, well, civilized. Or you could almost say "acting white". Which is why they don't like that kind of behavior and start complaining about uncle toms, and as an indirect result get gunned down. Choose the thug life choose the thug death, I guess, the only pity I have is for the innocents who try to be civilized but get gunned down anyway. If the result of your culture is bodies stacked like cordwood, and you claim not to like that, try a culture that doesn't suck. Seems to work for everyone else who comes here with nothing and a generation later are all doctors and lawyers.
2) Raise some money ( as opposed to burn some buildings ) for legal work, see below. Every SWPL in town will ride their hipster bicycle over to a bake sale to buy $20 cookies so they can signal their progressiveness on social media by posting idiotic tweets and pixs. They aren't gonna put on their hipster jeans and ride their hipster bikes over to the buildings BLM just burned down.
3) Using point #2's money, get a legal injunction against the police dept to fix / upgrade policies and training to something a little more sane, a little less "jim crow" era pre-civil rights deep south. I mean this isn't rocket surgery and if you don't like police policies and training and doctrine there are ways to fix it that are more effective than prayer circles and torching white people owned property, like using the (expensive) legal system for example.
4) Boycotts and stuff actually worked decades ago. If no black people went to the fests, fairs, and ball games until the cops stop shooting people, there would be billionaires on their side pissed off about the cops killing their businesses... They're brave enough to riot but not brave enough to stop going to pro basketball games or the fair. What a bunch of cowards. If they were brave they'd have had 500 people in suits and ties carrying signs at the state fair entrance encouraging people to boycott until the cops stop killing. But no, the cowards just torched some buildings instead.
For cultural reasons I'm not sure it can be fixed. Probably the media will get tired of it eventually.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday August 15 2016, @05:21PM
Good God - you lay out the best plan in this conversation, and someone mods you "flamebait". Everyone has the right to be stupid, but some of our fellow mods abuse that right.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday August 15 2016, @09:23PM
Modded up for making total sense, though I would caution you about how much you're assuming is in their control and is a cultural factor.
I'd start with the entertainment media: music glorifying crime, drugs, human trafficking, and gang violence is probably both the most amenable to voluntary cultural change and one of the biggest factors in shaping the kids' and teenagers' perspective and future behavior.
This does NOT mean "ban rap and hip-hop," but get them listening to people like Immortal Technique instead of whatever useless, degrading trash is popular now. Good grief, even standard bubblegum pop would be preferable to that crap. There was a time when rap and hip-hop had a serious message; they were less pure music than they were a kind of cultural unity message...well, THAT got the hell hijacked out of it right quick now didn't it?
Next thing to focus on would be to remove that pernicious "acting white" meme from the meme pool. No, doing successful things is not "acting white," it's acting successful. Let them know 1) success SHOULD be colorblind and 2) they DESERVE to succeed, because they are PEOPLE.
The rest really is largely inflicted on them from the outside, VLM. Remember, I come from the Bronx. I lived in Harlem, however briefly. You cannot live in these places with your eyes open and not see this. The school system has failed them, the police are explicitly stopping-and-frisking them and Hispanics because they are black or Hispanic, poverty is endemic, and the pervasive sense of despair leaves many of them with nothing except resentment. Leave aside how much of that is their own fault or not; this is the situation on the ground.
What say ye?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by jdavidb on Tuesday August 16 2016, @03:51PM
Its a pity because even from my somewhat right leaning position, its obvious the black folk are getting screwed over unjustly and have no leadership ability to get anything useful done beyond "burn whiteys buildings down" or "lets have a prayer circle" as if that'll accomplish anything, as if thats ever accomplished anything
It's not like they have the legal right to establish their own parallel institutions that look out for their interests. They get one state, one police force, and it's biased against them, and there are no legal alternatives. This is how monopoly service works.
If the result of your culture is bodies stacked like cordwood, and you claim not to like that, try a culture that doesn't suck
Again, there aren't any legal alternatives. They are taxed to support institutions that are biased against them. They don't have the legal right to pull out and stop supporting those institutions and build their own. There's no competition, and those institutions wield lethal force. Their culture will forever be influenced like this until enough people come to believe in self-determination.
And as for the thug life and thug death - clearly that goes for the U.S. federal government, so I guess it goes for everybody living under it, right? Except maybe us innocents who try to be civilized? If you believe everybody should be forced to support institutions like the police force against their will, then you are one of the thugs, and you are part of the problem.
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