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After a night of violent protests, Milwaukee residents gathered Sunday evening to mourn an armed man shot to death by police and begin the healing process.
Family and friends of Sylville Smith, 23, held a candlelight vigil at the site of Saturday's shooting in a residential area of North Milwaukee.
The shooting triggered unrest in the city's north side Saturday night as protesters torched businesses and threw rocks at officers. Four officers were injured and 17 people were arrested, Mayor Tom Barrett said.
Tensions on Sunday gave way to calls for peace as activists gathered outside the affected businesses.
Smith's sister, Sherelle Smith, condemned violence carried out in her brother's name, saying the community needs those businesses.
Black Lives Shatter
Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/14/us/milwaukee-violence-police-shooting/
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday August 16 2016, @04:53PM
You don't actually seem upset about all this so much as annoyed that "those people" (sed s/nigger/r-selected breeders/g -i /mnt/jmorris/racial_theory.sh) are pushing the more "worthy" (read: people like jmorris) out.
I swear to Cthulhu, this whole thing is the same eugenics/Lebensraum propaganda that the elite have been pushing since the late 19th century. It's got all the elements. What's next, are you going to tell me that the putative r-types are life unworthy of life? That only proper K-types deserve to breed or even live? Christ on a Sea-Doo, there's even the classic identification with the "virtuous predator" contrasted with the stupid, useless, and most of all WEAK breeders...fuck 'em, right?
This book you're talking about sounds like the social-Darwinist version of Das Kapital: mostly right about the problems it describes, but wrong in subtle and important ways, and God forbid anyone follow the proposed "solution."
I also disagree very strongly with you that solving the symptoms of these issues through technology will lead to Idiocracy; it's well-documented that birth rate drops with prosperity and especially womens' education. I can't think of a more K-type strategy, in fact, than using tech to bring the material standard of living up. It doesn't, of course, solve the mental and spiritual problems on its own...but it's like people who say money can't buy happiness: that's strictly true but anyone who's ever had to scrounge in a dumpster will tell you it buys security and peace of mind, which allows you to pursue happiness.
Plus, remember, we're a social species. We're all connected at some level, even if Dunbar's Number limits us to about 150 people we can concretely care for. We're capable of agape, which you can think of as transcending that number if only in an abstract way. Especially now that we can communicate almost instantly across the internet. Why not encourage this to follow to its proper conclusion?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by jmorris on Tuesday August 16 2016, @06:07PM
so much as annoyed that "those people"
Of course I hate them. I'm rational. :) Burning yer own shit because you are mad is so dumb there are few words in human tongues to describe it.
What's next, are you going to tell me that the putative r-types are life unworthy of life? That only proper K-types deserve to breed or even live?
Well all of our social and moral codes are K selected. But if you would read the whole book and not attempts to summarize it on a web forum.... You would find the truth to be even worse. There isn't any simple answer, even if the K selected types could overcome their altruistic impulse to aid anyone in their in group and 'do the hard thing' and wipe/drive out the r selected folk it wouldn't help. Remember where almost everyone carries both sets of genes and environmental triggers in early childhood control which dominate? Every time civilization succeeds it creates safety and excess resources, and because K selected people are high investment child rearers.... guess what happens next? HInt: Britney Spears rocks in the new Century dancing on a pole with a snake is what.
More Science is where the only hope seems to be, if we understood the mechanism better we might be able to adopt child rearing customs intentionally designed to create the proper environment to bring on more K selection even if the society isn't living on the ragged edge of war, famine and general lack of resources.
Das Kapital: mostly right about the problems it describes, but wrong in subtle and important ways..
No excuse for not actually reading enough of Marx to avoid saying things like that. Marx is not wrong in subtle ways; He is obviously wrong from fifty pages in, starting with his Labor Theory of Value and everything else rests weakly on that bad foundation. It wears the cloak of Science but is purely a work of political philosophy. Anybody who got taken in by that old fraud wanted to believe. Envy is a powerful motivator in weak minds.
Or maybe I'm just suupar smart and stuff? But I didn't fall for Marx, didn't fall for Jesus and even avoided the Ayn Rand trap. Those three get 99% of folks. Same for Moldbug, some of his stuff is great but some of it..... needs work. They all have useful things to teach but all of them have obvious flaws if you are looking for them.
Which is why I liked Anonymous Conservative, he/they admit the limits of where the Science can currently take their work. It is why there is no solution proposed though. His book is an attempt to explore the current state of the art in Science applied to humans and limits itself to where the rest of the scientific community could go if they weren't afraid. There is probably a reason the author is "Anonymous Conservative" after all. The footnotes tend to point to science and history, not political and philosophical tracts.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday August 16 2016, @06:22PM
Keep telling yourself that. You're still fatally and permanently stuck in an egoistic mode of thinking, and NO solution scientific or otherwise is going to solve THAT. The irony here is just sickening...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...