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posted by martyb on Sunday August 21 2016, @10:37AM   Printer-friendly
from the government-of,-by,-and-for-the-people-on-its-deathbed dept.

I've previously mentioned federal whistleblower Peter Van Buren here and his expose on working for minimum wage at a store he called "Bullseye" while his lawsuit wound its way through the court system.
He has now blogged about a part of government which, apparently, hasn't had any new ideas since 1856.

I just wrapped up a couple of days of jury duty.

Note "jury duty", which is very different than serving on a jury. I didn't do that. Being on an actual jury involves making a careful judgment on someone's life. I did jury duty, which involves waiting and sitting and waiting, while watching your last hopeful images of democracy fade away.

[...] It was about 10:30 before a guy who said he'd been doing this exact same job for 34 years began speaking to us as if we were slow children or fairly smart puppies. The bulk of his explanation was about how most of us would get our $40 a day jury payment, and the many exceptions to that. It was then lunch.

[After lunch, we waited for the rest of the day but] were unneeded. We were dismissed until re-summoned tomorrow morning.

[...] The next morning, [...] I got called to jury selection, along with about 20 [others who had been waiting in the same semi-air-conditioned room]. We were brought to an unventilated hallway to wait for 30 minutes before entering an actual courtroom. [...] We did an olde timey swearing in, and then were invited to visit the judge and explain any "issues" we might have that would prevent us from serving on a jury.

It was pathetic. Nearly everyone bitched, whined, begged, and complained that they could not do it.

[...] I got bounced out of the jury selection in the next phase. Both the prosecutor and the defense attorney asked us questions about our jobs, our thoughts on law enforcement (especially if we trusted police to testify honestly), and the like. I answered every question completely candidly and was thrown back to wait three more hours until "jury duty" was over. The only way I could have served would have been to lie.

[...] This system is a mess. [...] The 19th century notion that everyone simply must find a way to put their life on hold does not work. [...] Telling single parents to just figure out child care, Wall Street brokers to just not care about millions of dollars, students to just miss class, and people who work freelance or hourly to just suck it up and lose their already limited income is not 2016.

If assigned to an actual jury, you stay with the trial until it is done. [...] If you pull a murder case or one of the many medical malpractice suits, it could be a month+. [...] For $40 a day [...]--minus the minimum five dollars [that] commuting to court and back costs, means you are getting about half the minimum wage in New York, and even that takes six to eight weeks to be sent to you. [...] If you are already living on the margins, you cannot afford to serve on a jury.

[...] A lot of folks whose English was poor or who sounded as if they did not get much of an education had no excuse the judge would accept [to be dismissed].

[...] My limited window into all of this suggests juries might just be made up of people who can't get out of it. Hard to say how bitter that makes them feel listening to an actual case.


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  • (Score: 2) by SDRefugee on Sunday August 21 2016, @02:11PM

    by SDRefugee (4477) on Sunday August 21 2016, @02:11PM (#391022)

    About 3 weeks ago I received a jury duty summons, directing me to report last monday to our local court. The summons directs you to call in to an automated phone number the night before the day you are supposed to report. The call tells you what time to be at the courthouse the next day, it also may tell you that you're not needed to report and that you've done your jury service until at least 18 months. Since I've lived in Las Vegas/Clark County Nevada, (moved here in 1996), I've received two of these summonses. As far as I'm concerned the court here does jury duty the right way.. Here, if you're summoned for it, you spend ONE day sitting around, and getting brought into courtrooms and asked your opinions on the police, etc. IF you are not selected for a jury by the end of the day at 5pm, you're DONE.. If, perchance, you ARE selected for a jury, you collect the pittance of $40/day after the second day of the trial..

    Of the two times I've been summoned, only the first time, probably 7 years ago, when I was still working, did I actually have to go downtown to the courthouse and spend the day sitting around, reading a book (no newspapers, please). I went thru two jury selection interviews and I guess neither the defense nor the prosecution liked my answers, as I was excused from both. The second summons I received directing me to report last monday, I called the night before and was told I was not needed...

    Contrast this way of doing jury selection vs the way they did it in San Diego, where I lived prior to moving to Las Vegas. There, if you were called to jury duty, you had a two-week period of calling in every evening to find out if you had to report downtown, where if you drove there, YOU had to pay the ripoff parking rates to park, and then go sit in a stinky waiting room from 8am to 5pm.. Oh and did I mention, Las Vegas court pays your parking when you report for jury duty here...

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 21 2016, @09:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 21 2016, @09:34PM (#391256)

    In NC it is the same way. Except for pay. 13 for the first day, 20 for the second, 40 thereafter. You only serve one day usually and call in.