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posted by martyb on Monday August 22 2016, @08:06AM   Printer-friendly
from the those-who-can,-do dept.

Nikita Bush's career as a public school teacher came to an end when she faced the decision of how to educate her own children. Having been told for years that American public schools would eventually get better for black children, the number of African-American homeschooling parents like Ms. Bush has doubled in little over a decade.

As Patrick Jonsson of the Christian Science monitor reports, studies show all kinds of public school problems disproportionately affect black children, and many parents have decided to take matters into their own hands. Even single parents are forming co-ops to make it possible to educate their children together outside of the public school system.

What do you do when you feel the system is failing your child and their education?


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2016, @11:17AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2016, @11:17AM (#391562)

    ... all-white legislature to represent white people... white president for white people.

    We've tried that already (for more than 200 years). I think we even had it in the Constitution.

    Stop talking about, thinking about and acting like "black Americans" are all the same, have all the same wants, all the same needs, and think & act as a collective. They don't any more than "white Americans".

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2016, @01:32PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2016, @01:32PM (#391605)

    Stop talking about, thinking about and acting like "black Americans" are all the same, have all the same wants, all the same needs, and think & act as a collective. They don't any more than "white Americans".

    As soon as all the Power Americans stop doing it to Black Americans then you'll have a point. Until then, addressing the problems that are systemically imposed on Black Americans is entirely reasonable because its the problem is the imposition, not the people.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2016, @02:08PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2016, @02:08PM (#391628)

      Are white people making black fathers abandon their children? Are white people making young black men shoot each other in numbers that make police shooting numbers laughable? Are white people making black women get pregnant and drop out of highschool?

      Maybe it's white people's fault for not teaching them how to take responsibly, but expecting responsibly from black people is racist somehow...

      My great grandfather immigrated here in 1909, I don't own blacks shit.

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Monday August 22 2016, @02:15PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 22 2016, @02:15PM (#391634) Journal

        "Are white people making black fathers abandon their children?"

        Let me surprise you with a "yes". Yes, white people have been depriving black families of their fathers for quite a long time now. We use two separate and distinct tools with which to do so.

        The corrupt prison for profit system, routinely sweeps up minor offenders, and even innocent young men, and sends them off to prison for years, or decades. It's tough to be a father when armed men take you away, and lock you in a cage. Do you think that YOU could be a good father under those conditions?

        The welfare system also deprives families of their fathers. Women can get fairly decent money from the state, if they don't have a man providing for them. If there is a working age person in the home who does not work, things get ugly. Welfare doesn't want to provide food and benefits to working age males who don't hold a job. They are prejudiced, in that respect. That working age male might do alright with welfare if he is a SINGLE PARENT, but mothers don't let fathers take their children away very often.

        So, yes. We punish black working age males by keeping them locked up, and we punish black families with a welfare system that rewards people for being single and dependent on the state.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2016, @03:36PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2016, @03:36PM (#391688)

          > Welfare doesn't want to provide food and benefits to working age males who don't hold a job. They are prejudiced, in that respect.

          They don't want to do that for working age females either.

          Seriously, there is literally no difference in the amount of welfare available to a custodial parent based on their gender.

          Where is the prejudice in that?

          • (Score: 3, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Monday August 22 2016, @05:52PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 22 2016, @05:52PM (#391752) Journal

            Mothers almost invariably become the custodial parent. It just works that way. The courts will block a father from seeing his kids based on unsubstantiated rumors, but the mother has to be demonstrably crazy or dangerously violent before she is stripped of parental rights.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2016, @06:28PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2016, @06:28PM (#391781)

              That may be true.

              Yet it says absolutely nothing about welfare policies which are constrained by Title IX to be completely gender neutral.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2016, @08:19PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2016, @08:19PM (#391862)

              And even if she is crazy or violent it's still an uphill battle for the man to get custody.

        • (Score: 2) by VLM on Monday August 22 2016, @07:22PM

          by VLM (445) on Monday August 22 2016, @07:22PM (#391827)

          Those punishments are unfair, but the problem is practically no black kids have fathers. Out of wedlock at birth is 2 in 3 black kids and logically the number of black kids with a stable father figure is likely to only decrease over time as relationships "naturally" collapse over time. Figure maybe 1 in 10 black teen boys has a black man in their lives as a stable father figure? I think that a fair estimate and would take the over under on a bet. Surely it can't be over 3 in 10 mathematically yet a black kid having a father is not unheard of... my high functioning successful well educated tax paying black coworkers all seem to have healthy relationships with their fathers so it can't be much less than 1 in 10 (like it can't be less than 1 in a million or something). Its almost as if... as if ... as if teen boys need dads. Talk about being politically incorrect! Surely that can't be it. Feminism hates men so claiming anyone needs men for anything is being anti-woman.

          Anyway "we" do imprison 1 in every 15 black men... OK I'll agree that is an excellent excuse for 1 in 10 teen boys not to have a father in their day to day lives.

          Likewise the welfare system is not enrolling 100% of black kids. Lets say optimistically its "only" a quarter of them growing up on welfare. First of all I'm unsure why being on welfare magically makes it impossible for mom to have a relationship with a "fatherly figure" just can't go to church and make it official for financial reasons. There's plenty of legendary white couples who date for a decade before getting married. Plenty of poor white couples raising un-f-ed-up little white boys.

          Whatever anyway the point I'm making is maybe 90% of black teen boys don't have a dad when they need one, so they get Fed up to some level, and whitey is responsible for maybe a third of them being missing at absolute worst, probably less. And their excuse for the other 2/3 of sperm donors being unwilling to fulfill their fatherly responsibilities is ... is ... crickets? Anyone got an answer that isn't racist? Anything? Maybe because their culture sucks and is self-destructive, and until they admit it, their culture is going to circle the drain and no amount of "blame whitey" is going to improve their outcomes?

        • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Tuesday August 23 2016, @02:21AM

          by linkdude64 (5482) on Tuesday August 23 2016, @02:21AM (#391966)

          "The corrupt prison for profit system, routinely sweeps up minor offenders, and even innocent young men, and sends them off to prison for years, or decades. "

          You're right, all of those innocent children roaming free with a dozen arrests on their record for possession of illegal drugs/tresspassing/vandalism were never given a single chance to follow the law. You know as well as I do that minorities are given dozens of chances by a sympathetic court system.

          And don't give me the bullshit argument for drug arrests that pot "should be legal anyway" - it's the law, and even though I want to smoke pot sometimes, and want to run stop lights and stop signs sometimes, as a responsible person I choose not to. Plenty of high schoolers go straight home after school, don't go to parties, hang out with the wrong crowd, etc. People are responsible for their actions regardless of race. Parents are responsible for how safe and welcoming they make their homes for their children, regardless of race. Parents are responsible for how they teach and raise their children.

          "we punish black families with a welfare system that rewards people for being single and dependent on the state."

          This statement is so backward I don't even know where to begin. You think that giving lazy people money that is STOLEN from working people is a punishment for the lazy people???? Give me a fscking break!!! This is why reasonable people do not respect Left-Wing politics anymore!!!

          You think that giving people money for free removes their ability to choose a respectable lifestyle? How the hell does giving somebody money remove all of their responsibility for their own life's path?

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday August 23 2016, @03:07PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday August 23 2016, @03:07PM (#392158) Journal

            Drugs and trespassing should be hendled in the local community, with community service and restitution if applicable. vandalism comes in a lot of different styles and varieties. Broke a window? Make the dumbass pay for the window, AND do a week or two of community service. Burnt down a warehouse? Alright, this guy is a candidate for prison. Spray painted a wall, bridge, a tree, a park bench? Put him to work scrubbing his own mess, then keep him at it for another couple weeks in the neighborhood.

            Tell me, do you really think that, even if our prisons were perfect, a broken window, or a spray painted park bench, warrants a year in prison?

            Also, tell me - what do young men learn in prison? It's not like prisons are really aimed at rehabilitation. Prisoners have lots of idle time to swap lies, and learn another loser's methods of getting caught.

            Let's go to some effort and expense to keep dumb ass kids OUT OF PRISON! Kids are kids, they do stupid things. I did, I'll wager that you did. I never got caught doing the stupidest things, so I don't have a record. I'm "respectable", all because I don't have a prison record.

            A lot of those youngsters might become respectable, if only we can keep them OUT OF PRISON!

            Let me make that just as clear as I know how: petty criminals don't belong in prison. They belong in the community, working for the community.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2016, @03:03PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 22 2016, @03:03PM (#391662)

        > Are white people making young black men shoot each other in numbers that make police shooting numbers laughable?

        You know, white people shoot each other [usuncut.com] in numbers that make police shootings laughable too.
        Where's your concern for white-on-white crime?
        Oh right, you don't care about crime, you just want a smokescreen to defend the abuse of state power.

    • (Score: 2) by Entropy on Tuesday August 23 2016, @03:10AM

      by Entropy (4228) on Tuesday August 23 2016, @03:10AM (#391983)

      I refuse to accept the myth that black people can't be racist(because slavery) and somehow you want different rules to apply to black people, but only when it's your advantage. When it isn't your advantage it's racism, because slavery. Want to fix the issues black people often face? Look within.