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posted by martyb on Friday August 26 2016, @04:51AM   Printer-friendly
from the where-did-THOSE-come-from? dept.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/fbi-uncovered-at-least-14900-more-documents-in-clinton-email-investigation/2016/08/22/36745578-6643-11e6-be4e-23fc4d4d12b4_story.html

The FBI's year-long investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server uncovered 14,900 emails and documents from her time as secretary of state that had not been disclosed by her attorneys, and a federal judge on Monday pressed the State Department to begin releasing emails sooner than mid-October as it planned.

Justice Department lawyers said last week that the State Department would review and turn over Clinton's work-related emails to a conservative legal group. The records are among "tens of thousands" of documents found by the FBI in its probe and turned over to the State Department, Justice Department attorney Lisa Ann Olson said Monday in court.

The 14,900 Clinton documents are nearly 50 percent more than the roughly 30,000 emails that Clinton's lawyers deemed work-related and returned to the department in December 2014.

Lawyers for the State Department and Judicial Watch, the legal group, are negotiating a plan for the release of the emails in a civil public records lawsuit before U.S. District Judge James E. Boasberg of Washington.

In a statement after a hearing at the U.S. district courthouse in Washington, Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton said the group was pleased that Boasberg rejected the department's proposal to begin releasing documents weekly on Oct. 14, ordering it instead to prioritize Clinton's emails and to return to court Sept. 22 with a new plan.

"We're pleased the court accelerated the State Department's timing," Fitton said. "We're trying to work with the State Department here, but let's be clear: They have slow-walked and stonewalled the release of these records. They've had many of them since July 25 ... and not one record has yet been released, and we don't understand why that's the case."


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  • (Score: 3, Flamebait) by RedBear on Friday August 26 2016, @06:51AM

    by RedBear (1734) on Friday August 26 2016, @06:51AM (#393376)

    Want a woman in the White House? Vote Stein. Stein may or may not be the "best" woman for the job, but she'd damned good, and she's honest. No dead bodies, no scandals, no hundreds of millions of dollars from questionable donors

    Stein is an anti-vaxxer and believes Wi-Fi may be harming American schoolchildren. Two fringe conspiracy theorist ideas that have been soundly debunked repeatedly by numerous legitimate peer reviewed scientific studies.

    AND SHE HAS A MIND! Most people who hold a doctorate's degree have a mind. Funny how that works.

    Beg to differ. Are there many intelligent people who wind up with PhDs? Sure. But the main thing you need in order to acquire a PhD is not brains but perseverance (and money). The ability to slog through the years of insanity that is the PhD candidate process. Many people without functioning brains have managed to acquire PhDs.

    Example: A current presidential candidate has a PhD and yet is an anti-vaxxer and believes Wi-Fi is medically harmful. See above. QED.

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday August 26 2016, @06:58AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday August 26 2016, @06:58AM (#393377) Journal

    Granted, some real idiots manage to get degrees.

    Stein isn't an idiot though.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @07:03AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @07:03AM (#393378)

    Stein is an anti-vaxxer and believes Wi-Fi may be harming American schoolchildren.

    http://www.snopes.com/is-green-party-candidate-jill-stein-anti-vaccine/ [snopes.com]

    • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by RedBear on Friday August 26 2016, @08:04AM

      by RedBear (1734) on Friday August 26 2016, @08:04AM (#393392)

      You should really read the entire Snopes link you posted, not just the giant "FALSE" at the top. She's a waffler on the subject and uses many lines commonly used by anti-vaxxers to imply that the vaccine process is corrupt and vaccines are just being used to line the pockets of Big Pharma. This is the equivalent of Trump constantly claiming to not be racist or support white supremacy while dog-whistling and using white supremacist arguments all day long and pretending that he's never heard of the KKK.

      She is an anti-vaxxer. Do not be fooled. She's just not quite as open and dumb about revealing it as, say, Michele Bachmann.

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      • (Score: 3, Funny) by FatPhil on Friday August 26 2016, @11:31AM

        by FatPhil (863) <pc-soylentNO@SPAMasdf.fi> on Friday August 26 2016, @11:31AM (#393433) Homepage
        Yes - I've rarely seen anything anti-vax as sneakily worded as this:
        """
        I think there's no question that vaccines have been absolutely critical in ridding us of the scourge of many diseases — smallpox, polio, etc. So vaccines are an invaluable medication ... We have a real compelling need for vaccinations.
        """
        Definitely anti-vax, yes-siree.
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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @12:12PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @12:12PM (#393445)

          Don't be coy. She plays both sides of the issue. Even if she is not anti-vax she courts anti-vaxxers by echoing their rhetoric. From a practical standpoint, that's the same thing. Its like Trump saying all that racist-friendly shit and then saying he's not a racist because he has hired some hispanics and amarosa.

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday August 26 2016, @03:48PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday August 26 2016, @03:48PM (#393530) Journal

            Alright, you've got ONE ISSUE which Stein appears to "waffle" on. Now, look at the competition, and count how many times they have "pivoted". FFS - in comparison, Stein is a glowing example of honesty.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @07:52PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @07:52PM (#393653)

              Comparing waffling with changing a position is misleading.
              Waffling is about playing both sides simultaneously, not fully committing to any one position. That's Trump in a nutshell, he plays all sides of every issue so that in the future he can say he was "right."

              Changing a position is about correcting an error and should be encouraged. If you told us you have never changed your mind in your life, I doubt anyone would believe you.

              Saying that Stein has never changed a position is kinda simplistic. Anyone with such little public exposure hasn't really had their opinions tested. Its easy to stick to an opinion, no matter how poorly conceived, if you never have to face the consequences of that opinion.

              • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday August 27 2016, @01:28AM

                by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 27 2016, @01:28AM (#393807) Journal

                You've entirely missed the point. Hillary, and to a lesser degee, Trump, changes position with each new audience she addresses. Hillary even has a different accent ready for each audience.

          • (Score: 2) by melikamp on Friday August 26 2016, @04:54PM

            by melikamp (1886) on Friday August 26 2016, @04:54PM (#393564) Journal

            You just got a direct quote which unequivocally paints her as a principled vaxxer. Are you going to give us a Jill Stein quote that disses vaccines (not the testing/approval process, but the vaccinations themselves), or are you going to admit you are astroturfing for Clinton campaign? Saying this nonsense over and over again, in the face of clear evidence to the contrary, clearly betrays your desire to dump some shit on her, just as Assange predicted.

            BTW, I'll give you WIFI: she does seem to doubt the current research. Although her infamous "wifi bad for kids' brains" comment is not that straightforward either: she may be talking about the internet via WIFI, not the WIFI proper (hear it in context).

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @07:44PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @07:44PM (#393648)

              Her use of anti-vax adjacent rhetoric is documented in the cited snopes article.

    • (Score: 3, Disagree) by frojack on Friday August 26 2016, @08:08AM

      by frojack (1554) on Friday August 26 2016, @08:08AM (#393394) Journal

      How does that get modded informative?

      Snopes came down squarely on the fence, and the fence appears to run down the middle of the road.

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      • (Score: 1) by Frost on Saturday August 27 2016, @03:28PM

        by Frost (3313) on Saturday August 27 2016, @03:28PM (#393944)

        She's definitely not anti-vax (take that, RedBear), but she's not strongly anti-anti-vax either. So she's a carnivorous lizard just like all other politicians. But she's less awful than the other lizards so she gets my vote!

        Giant Carnivorous Lizard 2016! Rah! Rah! Raaaaaaawr!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @08:05AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @08:05AM (#393393)

    Stein is an anti-vaxxer

    No she's not. [snopes.com]

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by TheRaven on Friday August 26 2016, @08:10AM

    by TheRaven (270) on Friday August 26 2016, @08:10AM (#393395) Journal

    Stein is an anti-vaxxer

    For those too lazy to click on the Snopes link:

    As a medical doctor of course I support vaccinations. I have a problem with the FDA being controlled by drug companies.

    - Jill Stein, July 29, 2016

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @03:20PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @03:20PM (#393522)

      As a medical doctor of course I support vaccinations.

      I find that way of phrasing it very disingenuous :/

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @06:31PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @06:31PM (#393624)

        Why?

  • (Score: 2) by bradley13 on Friday August 26 2016, @08:26AM

    by bradley13 (3053) on Friday August 26 2016, @08:26AM (#393397) Homepage Journal

    Nonsense. As far as I can tell by reading about her, she is entirely for vaccinations. She objects to the approval process being bought and paid for, which happens to also be an argument that the anti-vaxxers make. The thing is: she's right:

    The approval boards for drugs and vaccines theoretically include plenty of "neutral" people, like professors from universities. However, if one follows the money trail, one finds out that those professors generally run research labs, and those labs are often financed by generation donations from...the companies that submit drugs to the board for approval.

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  • (Score: 1) by stretch611 on Friday August 26 2016, @08:26AM

    by stretch611 (6199) on Friday August 26 2016, @08:26AM (#393398)

    Stein is an anti-vaxxer and believes Wi-Fi may be harming American schoolchildren. Two fringe conspiracy theorist ideas that have been soundly debunked repeatedly by numerous legitimate peer reviewed scientific studies

    I read this as well. I'm not sure how true it is, but even if she is bonkers enough to believe this, Stein is still a much better choice the either Trump or Hillary.

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  • (Score: 2) by art guerrilla on Friday August 26 2016, @10:31AM

    by art guerrilla (3082) on Friday August 26 2016, @10:31AM (#393424)

    *sigh*
    another propaganda victim...
    i don't carry any water for stein, but she is not an anti-vaxxer, MORE lies from cliton droids...
    myself, i am going to do what i did last time: write in snowden/manning...

    again, i make my point: since the present system nets us a gummint which will vote against our intersests 99% of the time, a COIN FLIP for president where we get 50% of the decisions fall our way would be a MASSIVE improvement...

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @03:22PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 26 2016, @03:22PM (#393524)

      They would just do what they always do and submit the same legislation again and again and wail until the coin comes up right.

  • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Friday August 26 2016, @08:50PM

    by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Friday August 26 2016, @08:50PM (#393678) Journal

    Just wanted to put this [wikipedia.org] here for general information. Not sure where the error started.

    In 1973, Stein graduated magna cum laude from Harvard, where she studied psychology, sociology, and anthropology. She then attended Harvard Medical School and graduated in 1979. After graduating from Harvard Medical School, Stein practiced internal medicine for 25 years at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, Simmons College Health Center, and Harvard Pilgrim Health Care, and also served as an instructor of medicine at Harvard Medical School. She retired from practicing and teaching medicine in 2005 and 2006, respectively.

    Disclaimer: I will be voting for Johnson.