In the ongoing battle of site improvements and shoring up security, I finally managed to scratch a long-standing itch and signed the soylentnews.org domain. As of right now, our chain is fully validated and pushed to all our end-points.
Right now, I'm getting ready to dig in with TheMightyBuzzard to work on improving XSS protection for the site, and starting to lay out new site features (which will be in a future post). As with any meta post, I'll be reading your comments below.
~ NCommander
(Score: 2) by SomeGuy on Thursday August 25 2016, @06:15PM
Don't laugh too hard: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:1.8.1.25pre) Gecko/20110912 SeaMonkey/1.1.20pre
It is the last Mozilla browser that will run under 95/98/ME/NT 4 (and even NT 3.51!) without something like KernelEX (98 only). And it includes a fix that for a while made that... other news site render OK-ish after adding HTML5 "section" tags, but they have gone even further down hill since then.
Downloadable from here: http://toastytech.com/files/95browsing.html [toastytech.com]
But about half the sites out there completely thumb their noses at me already now, so I'm not expecting anything.
(Why use it? Because I can!)
(Score: 2) by NCommander on Thursday August 25 2016, @06:54PM
It probably won't be hard to get the newer Firefox's/SeaMonkeys to compile for antique NT if there was an actual demand for them. I actually got Firefox to recently compile for IRIX, only to be killed at the last possible moment by the linker being unable to handle >2 GiB of stuff at once which no amount of fiddling would fix.
Still always moving
(Score: 2) by Justin Case on Saturday August 27 2016, @04:53PM
One of the most useful programs ever written, grep, is only 174K (on my system). I'm deeply suspicious of something over 2GiB. It can probably never be made secure, or fully understood even by its authors. Indeed it is probably chasing a fundamentally wrong design philosophy.
(Score: 2) by NCommander on Saturday August 27 2016, @05:59PM
Neither Firefox nor Chrome can be built with a 32-bit compiler anymore (Firefox has to use a 64->32 bit compiler last I checked). Most of this is because of the sheer amount of bloat that JavaScript and 'modern' web standards have become. Ultimately, what happened is after Java failed to deliver on the promise of write-once run-anywhere, the browser because a general purpose virtual machine for getting true platform independence. WebKit is several million lines of code; I won't be surprise if the browser in size exceeds more of the earlier versions of Windows in total LOC count.
Linux as a desktop platform became more viable not due to apps, but the fact the browser has become more or less the central repository where everything is done now. Even looking at my laptop, the only native apps I have installed are development tools, Steam+games, and browsers. Back in 2002, it would have had a slew of PIM software, CompuServe CIM for communication, Office, a USENET reader, and probably a lot more I am forgetting.
Still always moving
(Score: 2) by martyb on Thursday August 25 2016, @08:46PM
Ummm, yeah. That does qualify as an 'oddball browser' in my book. Sadly, I have no system that I could run it on.
That said, if you do notice an unexpected change in site behavior, please let us know. (Probably the easiest approach would be to give a shout out on IRC [soylentnews.org].) No guarantees, but you never know when a small change could get things working again.
Many thanks for the feedback!
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