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posted by martyb on Sunday August 28 2016, @08:47AM   Printer-friendly
from the we're-covering-this-story dept.

BBC News and CNN (disable CSS if page appears blank) report that the Council of State, a French administrative court, has suspended the ban on "burkini" swimsuits enacted in the town of Villeneuve-Loubet. The court has not yet decided whether the ban is legal or not. In the ruling, the court said that the ban "seriously and clearly illegally breached fundamental freedoms." Several other towns have recently enacted similar bans.

The Guardian (safe for work) reported on an incident in Nice in which the ban was enforced: police appeared to make a sunbather remove part of her suit.

previously:
The French Solution - or How I Learned to Laugh More (subtitle: Cannes Bans "Burkinis" Over Suspected Link to Radical Islamism)


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 28 2016, @03:56PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 28 2016, @03:56PM (#394241)

    People do not wear the burka voluntarily. The religious police will beat you up or kill you or go after your family if you do not wear it. Banning it, punishing people who do wear it, gives the people an excuse to say no to the religious police. It takes away their power.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 28 2016, @04:22PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 28 2016, @04:22PM (#394245)

    People do not wear the burka voluntarily.

    If a muslim female is attacked and raped, her own family will punish or murder her for "dishonoring" them. The problem is not that muslim women do voluntarily wear the burka but the rationale behind them volunteering.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Username on Sunday August 28 2016, @07:28PM

      by Username (4557) on Sunday August 28 2016, @07:28PM (#394306)

      I would rather have a women defy them in the slightest than not at all.

      Plus it’s not a murder, it’s an execution. If they’re devout enough to go after her for it, they will get it sanctioned by the iman of their mosque otherwise they will go to hell. She would be another sharia casualty.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 29 2016, @12:34AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 29 2016, @12:34AM (#394373)

        Plus it’s not a murder, it’s an execution.

        We do not legally recognise the concept of religious execution in the UK, "honour" killings are murders! [bbc.co.uk]

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday August 29 2016, @01:22AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 29 2016, @01:22AM (#394378) Journal

          We do not legally recognise the concept of religious execution in the UK, "honour" killings are murders!

          Which I might add, is a long-held tradition [wikipedia.org]:

          Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs.

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 28 2016, @07:49PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 28 2016, @07:49PM (#394311)

    If you have evidence that a specific individual is being forced to wear particular clothing, then maybe it should be reported to the police. Banning something because it could be abused is disgusting. Does no one have any love for freedom?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 28 2016, @09:27PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 28 2016, @09:27PM (#394328)

      Real world abuse is more subtle than that. In the UK, we now have laws against coercive behaviour. [independent.co.uk] This is a difficult area since a certain amount of coercion is the glue that holds society and inter-personal relationships together. As to the burka issue, I would imagine the coercion is social peer pressure. That is there is an element of choice but the choice is not if a woman will wear a burka, it is the potential consequences of refusing to do so.

      You can look at divorce for further related examples where the threat of being shunned by the wider religious community still exists in Jewish, Muslim [independent.co.uk] and some Irish Catholic communities.