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posted by janrinok on Monday August 29 2016, @04:16PM   Printer-friendly
from the whose-images? dept.

Submitted via IRC for TheMightyBuzzard

The Disruptive Competition Project(DisCo) has discovered a provision in a French law which requires search engines to pay royalties for the images they index. Although the Freedom of Creation Act was passed in late June, this particular provision in the law hasn't received much attention until now.

Under the provisions of the law, whenever a visual work is published online, the reproduction rights are automatically transferred to a collection agency authorized by the French government. Search engines must get a license from the collection agency in order to index the work and will pay a royalty in return. It will then be up to the collection agency to distribute the royalties to the creator of the work.

Source: http://techraptor.net/content/french-law-requires-search-engines-pay


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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 29 2016, @04:55PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 29 2016, @04:55PM (#394810)

    Whoa! This doesn't appear to be limited to even French works, works not published for profit (uploaded via Google Photos), or works explicitly published under "free to use, plz attribute" licenses. It appears that, under this law, Facebook must pay France for a Creative Commons licensed image uploaded from the USA to a private page. Retarded law is retarded.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 29 2016, @05:28PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 29 2016, @05:28PM (#394829)

    I've had an entire album of my photos swiped from my Facebook account and used without permission or attribution on another website. Seems fair to me in certain cases.

    • (Score: 2) by drussell on Monday August 29 2016, @05:32PM

      by drussell (2678) on Monday August 29 2016, @05:32PM (#394832) Journal

      Why on earth would you post something to Facebook if you didn't expect it to somehow eventually end up being made public?

      • (Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday August 30 2016, @01:01AM

        by frojack (1554) on Tuesday August 30 2016, @01:01AM (#395036) Journal

        Why on earth would you post something to Facebook if you didn't expect it to somehow eventually end up being made public?

        Your wishes don't appear to enter into it.
        French law says the upload becomes the the property of the French government.

        the reproduction rights are automatically transferred to a collection agency authorized by the French government.

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    • (Score: 2) by pgc on Monday August 29 2016, @05:34PM

      by pgc (1600) on Monday August 29 2016, @05:34PM (#394833)

      Did the search engine (Google) swipe these?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 29 2016, @06:22PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 29 2016, @06:22PM (#394859)

        I don't know how they were found, my work is supposed to only be shared with people on my friends list. The website that posted them said they forgot who they got them from. I threatened them with legal action if they didn't remove them or attribute them as my work, which they finally did. I've started watermarking everything to prevent future problems since then. I don't know if Google (or any other search engine) indexes Facebook photos even if your account is set not to let Google index your account. My advise is don't put anything in the cloud that you don't want used elsewhere. I've gone as far as deleting everything on web based storage, Google Drive, Dropbox, Onedrive, etc.

        • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Monday August 29 2016, @06:35PM

          by Grishnakh (2831) on Monday August 29 2016, @06:35PM (#394865)

          my work is supposed to only be shared with people on my friends list.

          Well, that was a stupid and naïve mistake right there. Anything you post on Facebook is public, period. If you don't want everyone in the world seeing something, don't post it on Facebook. I don't care about your "friends list", and neither does Facebook: they're infamous for not following those privacy settings, which they never wanted to implement in the first place, and only did to mollify people and keep them using Facebook. People are constantly getting in trouble because they post something on FB to their "friends only" and then someone else like their employer or some friend-of-a-friend sees it. Those privacy setting on Facebook are nothing more than mere suggestions, and are subject to change at any time.

          My advise is don't put anything in the cloud that you don't want used elsewhere. I've gone as far as deleting everything on web based storage, Google Drive, Dropbox, Onedrive, etc.

          This is good advice here. The only way any of that stuff is safe for your private data is if you encrypt it before uploading it there.

          • (Score: 2) by https on Monday August 29 2016, @09:19PM

            by https (5248) on Monday August 29 2016, @09:19PM (#394933) Journal

            Anything you post on facebook is facebook's, period.

            FTFY

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 29 2016, @09:28PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 29 2016, @09:28PM (#394936)

          Some of your friends could have easily uploaded the images somewhere else. If you can see in on your computer screen, it can be copied.

    • (Score: 1) by fraxinus-tree on Monday August 29 2016, @06:55PM

      by fraxinus-tree (5590) on Monday August 29 2016, @06:55PM (#394875)

      Good luck collecting royalties the french way