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on Wednesday August 31 2016, @05:37AM
from the tonight-they're-going-to-pollute-like-its-1999 dept.
from the tonight-they're-going-to-pollute-like-its-1999 dept.
Both houses of the California legislature have passed a bill called SB-32 which would tell the California Air Resources Board "to ensure that statewide greenhouse gas emissions are reduced to 40% below the 1990 level by 2030." The state's Democratic governor has issued a statement indicating that he intends to sign it into law.
The Western States Petroleum Association and the California Manufacturers & Technology Association expressed their opposition to the bill.
links:
- the bill
- governor's statement
- Western States Petroleum Association statement
- San Jose Mercury-News
- UPI
- Vox
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 31 2016, @09:39PM
My commute has never exceeded 15 miles, and is usually under 5. I have however moved from California to Texas to Massachusetts to Florida. Am I expected to sell the car and buy a new one? Am I expected to pay to have it towed?
(Score: 2) by TrumpetPower! on Wednesday August 31 2016, @10:01PM
If your concept of moving doesn't involve moving vans, you're far enough out of the mainstream that you're not relevant to the question.
If it does, then you'd deal with it the same way most people do with their own daily drivers. If you're doing it on the cheap and renting the van and driving the van yourself, you also rent a tow hitch or dolly or whatever. If you're more typical middle class, you pay somebody else to worry about it at the same time you pay somebody to worry about the sofa. And, yes, for some that'll mean selling the old and buying the new in the new city -- or, just as likely, doing a trade-in on the lease.
Think of the typical suburban family with 2.5 kids. How do you think they move both his and her cars?
Or, think about all those classic cars out there that only go on weekend drives to the park and would make lousy road trip cars. No different.
Cheers,
b&
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 31 2016, @10:51PM
The semi-cheap long-haul way is to hire ABF. I did it from Massachusetts to Florida with 2 kids, 1 wife, and 1 car.
You get a 28-foot trailer (rear part of a short 18-wheeler) dropped off for you to load. You get a couple days to load it, then the driver comes back and heads off with it. (adding commercial freight behind your stuff to reduce costs; you pay partly according to the portion of the trailer occupied) While he drives, you drive the car(s). You can beat him, since he has to deal with the commercial freight. He drops the trailer off at your new place, giving you a couple days to unload.
This... does not work with an EV.
(Score: 2) by TrumpetPower! on Wednesday August 31 2016, @11:21PM
Obviously.
Nor are most suburbanites cutting costs by renting shared space on commercial freight vans and going on a 24-hours-of-driving road trip.
Realistically, that's two hotel stays, much better done with three. Add in two days each of loading and unloading and you're looking at an entire week of nonstop hard manual labor for the whole family. followed by all the usual chaos and disruption of unpacking, a new school for the kids, all the rest.
Or, in other words, you are most emphatically not part of the 80% of the population for whom an EV is a good fit. Which is okay! Good for you that you can pull off that sort of thing, but the 80% for whom an EV is a good fit would think you barking mad to even suggest an ordeal as what you put yourself though.
That 80%...would pay a moving company for the whole mess. They would spend more upfront on the cost of the truck, yes, but they'd at least break even with you, if not come out ahead, by the end of the week...because, while you were paying for hotels and your own gas and what-not, you also weren't getting paid to work. They, on the other hand, took exactly one day for the move, and probably on a weekend: they took a taxi to the airport, took another taxi to their new home, slept on the floor that night (or maybe in the new beds they were wanting to get anyway), and were off to the new job the very next day. After a few days of "roughing it" in their new home -- or even in an hotel -- the movers showed up and had everything magically unloaded while they were at work and the kids were at school.
If you enjoyed your odyssey, all the more power to you. But most of the rest of us would think you penny wise and pound foolish -- and perhaps penny foolish, to boot.
Cheers,
b&
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 01 2016, @12:44AM
Well, I didn't have to drive a truck, didn't have strangers touching all my stuff, and didn't have to pay $$$$$ for special car shipping. I got at least 2 full days on each end, so more than 48 hours. I got so far ahead of the truck driver that I stopped to spend most of a day at the Jacksonville Zoo. The trip was in fact kind of interesting.
Even if I went full-service (them packing and loading/unloading) there would still be the matter of a car. That costs extra, especially if you don't want it towed and probably damaged. Really, I'd end up driving it in that case too.
The main reason I can see for flying is states that won't let you pass through with things you own, such as guns. This is of course a conflict with other stuff that might need to go by car, such as an aquarium with live fish. I have a coworker who did Florida to Texas with a desktop PC running off of a UPS so that he wouldn't need to reboot.