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posted by martyb on Friday September 02 2016, @07:42PM   Printer-friendly
from the looking-for-the-thermostat dept.

From The Guardian :

The planet is warming at a pace not experienced within the past 1,000 years, at least, making it "very unlikely" that the world will stay within a crucial temperature limit agreed by nations just last year, according to Nasa's top climate scientist.

[...] But Nasa said that records of temperature that go back far further, taken via analysis of ice cores and sediments, suggest that the warming of recent decades is out of step with any period over the past millennium.

[...] [Director of Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies Gavin] Schmidt repeated his previous prediction that there is a 99% chance that 2016 will be the warmest year on record, with around 20% of the heat attributed to a strong El NiƱo climatic event. Last year is currently the warmest year on record, itself beating a landmark set in 2014.


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by fritsd on Friday September 02 2016, @10:57PM

    by fritsd (4586) on Friday September 02 2016, @10:57PM (#396804) Journal

    If you can find sources from a century ago [gutenberg.org], when they were just discovering spectroscopy (especially Infrared spectroscopy), then that's a lot easier to read because there's not a 100 year ballast about rovibrational modes and symmetric Raman [wikipedia.org] stretches to wrestle through.

    I have actually only done an IR spectrum once in my life (for chemistry practicum) but I remember from looking up the example spectra that almost anything with a C = O bond (except for CO2 itself, because O=C=O is symmetric, so you can only see it with Raman spectroscopy, don't remember why) had an enormously strong, enormously broad signal signifying that aldehyde or ketone fragment's vibrations. So any molecule with a C=O bond is hard to miss in infrared light, because it absorbs so strongly at one particular quite broad wavelength band.

    And I've actually read bits of a book by Svante Arrhenius from 1906 where he explains about the greenhouse effect.

    That's 1906, not 2006.

    So this gives me enough "ammunition" to act all smug and all-knowing, that at least those few AGW skeptics that are unsure of whether the greenhouse effect exists (why do they think people invented actual greenhouses??) are either talking out of their arse, or that they're already convinced by false arguments, and don't like to be convinced by better arguments.

    I've also read the AR5 (maybe AR4) executive summary report, and there the arguments for CO2 as a so-called "forcing" (important word!) of our planet's temperature are explained very clearly and concisely.

    It is a blanket.

    Consider an asylum seeker drowining in the Mediterranean. The Italian or Greek coast guard [wikipedia.org] fishes him up. To save his life, they wrap him in a flimsy thin metal foil blanket.

    Why do they do that? Does that really work? You know that they wouldn't do it, if that procedure didn't work against hypothermia.

    If only the AGW deniers could just be convinced to sleep under 3 thin 'fugee emergency blankets, + 1 wool one on top, to keep out the Evil Liberal Mind Control Rays ...

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  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday September 02 2016, @11:15PM

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday September 02 2016, @11:15PM (#396810) Homepage

    " Consider an asylum seeker drowining in the Mediterranean. The Italian or Greek coast guard [wikipedia.org] fishes him up. To save his life, they wrap him in a flimsy thin metal foil blanket.

    Why do they do that? Does that really work? You know that they wouldn't do it, if that procedure didn't work against hypothermia. "

    We'd have a lot less of a problem with global warming if the coast guard didn't rescue those refugees and let them drown. And, similarly, if foreign countries stopped sending food and medical aid to Africa.

    The same people bitching about global warming are the same people who are exacerbating it by encouraging reckless breeders to breed recklessly even moreso.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by art guerrilla on Saturday September 03 2016, @12:19AM

      by art guerrilla (3082) on Saturday September 03 2016, @12:19AM (#396822)

      oooo, except for the inconvenient factoid that it is US spoilt 4% of the population who are using about 40-50% of the resources, soooooo, the 'logical' conclusion is to save more low-energy refugees, and for more high-energy amerikans to die off...

      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday September 03 2016, @12:59AM

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday September 03 2016, @12:59AM (#396829) Homepage

        Shut up, Jew.

        • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 03 2016, @02:19AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 03 2016, @02:19AM (#396862)

          Uuuuuuhhhhhhh!
          You made me cum so hard, Ethan.

        • (Score: 2) by art guerrilla on Saturday September 10 2016, @10:54AM

          by art guerrilla (3082) on Saturday September 10 2016, @10:54AM (#399960)

          um, atheist here, not even former jew...
          sorry to disappoint...
          although, i must admit, i do hates me some zionists...
          ...so, does that make me a self-hating, gentile, honorary jew ? ? ?