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Brazil's ex-President Dilma Rousseff has been impeached:
"I don't have political plans for office, but I do have political plans. I'm going to oppose this government," Rouseff told the foreign media Friday, two days after she was impeached by a Senate vote for breaking budget responsibility rules. The 68-year-old leftist leader said although she has been given 30 days to vacate the presidential palace, she will move back to her southern hometown of Porto Alegre next week.
Rousseff also had sharp words for Michel Temer, who was her vice president before taking over as interim president when she was initially suspended from office in May. She warned Temer against straying from the platform the two ran on in 2010 and 2014, adding that if he does, the public would see his government as illegitimate. She also vowed to speak up if his administration tried to crackdown on protests. The pair were initially allies, but Rousseff now accuses him of leading a "coup" in having her impeached.
Also at Bloomberg , BBC, Washington Post .
(Score: 4, Informative) by ikanreed on Saturday September 03 2016, @01:41PM
The people pushing the impeachment hardest were even more corrupt and stand to gain power from it.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by bart9h on Saturday September 03 2016, @03:54PM
She had her faults, but she had not gained a cent for herself. Unlike those against her, accused of robbing millions.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 03 2016, @08:12PM
That other submission was "accepted" [soylentnews.org]
...except that if you click Link to Story [soylentnews.org] you get nothing.
WTF??
This removal of (Progressive) Rouseff was a coup by the oligarchs of Brazil.
You can expect Brazil's economy to do even worse in the coming months and years.
Fascism is spreading worldwide.
I am expecting a repeat of of the 1930s (to include another World War--with nukes this time.)
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by cmn32480 on Sunday September 04 2016, @02:39PM
Multiple subs on the same topic get accepted all the time.
What generally happens is as follows:
"It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear" - Norm Peterson
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04 2016, @04:53PM
4. Any additional details from story 2 get added to story 1
What I'm saying is that that did not happen in this case.
What made it to the front page is the Oligarch's Reactionary version of the story.
(My submission contained a link to previous stories here where the charges brought have repeatedly been shown to be bogus--simply a case of bought-and-paid-for politicians.)
I don't want this place to become like Lamestream Media, only giving the 1 Percenters' version of the story.
...and it is my submission that was Story 1 (multiple days prior to the one that made the front page).
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Monday September 05 2016, @06:54AM
I like it when the editors link to "Original Submission #1", "Original Submission #2" and so on.
(Score: 2) by cmn32480 on Monday September 05 2016, @12:59PM
That happens as part of a merge in the submission queue. Iif it happens after one of the stories has been accepted, it is a manual process, and depending on time constraints, may not happen.
"It's a dog eat dog world, and I'm wearing Milkbone underwear" - Norm Peterson
(Score: 3, Disagree) by Dunbal on Saturday September 03 2016, @06:09PM
Impeached 60 to 20. No matter how you slice it, this was not a close thing even though cry babies who have power taken away from them will kick up a fuss. Good riddance. Let constitutional law and order continue.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 03 2016, @07:22PM
Let constitutional law and order continue.
I've never seen this spelling of "the status quo"...
(Score: 2) by Dunbal on Saturday September 03 2016, @11:38PM
You want blood in the streets? The status quo is not necessarily bad. Ask Libyans. Ask Iraqis. Ask Syrians. Ask Ukrainians how much fun revolutions are. 60 to 20 clearly shows where the majority is. The problem with revolutionaries and idealists is that they think they will win quickly and without bloodshed. Careful which box you open, Pandora.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday September 03 2016, @06:20PM
"What do you call it, when the assassin accuses the assassin?"
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 03 2016, @07:07PM
If "breaking budget responsibility rules" is the worst she's committed she's practically an angel as politicians go.
Heck in the USA the US Military makes up bullshit numbers in the order of trillions for its accounts, and who will get charged for that? http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-audit-army-idUSKCN10U1IG [reuters.com]
I know Dilmar is unpopular in Brazil for the Olympics and bad economy but is it really just her who's responsible for that? Were the ones who voted to impeach her innocent of that?
(Score: 2) by Non Sequor on Sunday September 04 2016, @03:12AM
Heck in the USA the US Military makes up bullshit numbers in the order of trillions for its accounts, and who will get charged for that? " rel="url2html-28214">http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-audit-army-idUSKCN10U1IG
That's not really an accurate way to say what that article is about. In accounting, your data relating to things that happened (received $X from Treasury, bought $Y in supplies, used $Z in supplies) has to be expressed as a transfer from one account to another. You also have accounts expressing things like budgets, so buying things results in the budget account going down, and another account containing things that you are purchasing going up. Using supplies depletes the account containing things you purchased and increases an account that contains things that you've used up.
The two entry format results in balance equations between different accounts based on the way that they are systematically set up. Some of the accounts correspond with things like checking accounts and have actual check registers and beginning and end of year balances that can be used to trace what happened. If the accounts are out of balance, it means that you did not properly enter some transaction that took place or you did something screwy that didn't reflect the correct operations for how the accounts are set up, and balancing the books at that point essentially amounts to debugging the data entry and processing, using the amount by which the accounts are out of balance as a diagnostic tool.
The alternative to doing that diagnostic process, is to treat something as a balancing item and say "whatever is left that I can't explain based on these transactions I logged is surely due to X" and moving on. The money in the cash accounts and the year end inventory have the final say.
The problem with this is not that you don't know how much you've spent, the problem is that you do not know with certainty what you spent it on. So when they say there are trillions of dollars of forced adjustments in the books, they're tallying up all of the balancing items, some of which are related to the same mistake reflected multiple different ways due to the nested account relationships. This basically means that they were supposed to maintain detailed accounting of a lot of stuff, errors were made in that process, and they have a mess that they lack the manpower to untangle, and ultimately it was force balanced to match what was there at the end of the year (which is the simplest accounting system there is).
I'd venture a guess that the accounting framework was overspecced and underimplemented.
Write your congressman. Tell him he sucks.