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posted by cmn32480 on Sunday September 04 2016, @12:16PM   Printer-friendly
from the it-is-usually-sugarcoated dept.

In the time leading up to the next Kernel Summit topics are presented and discussed beforehand on the Ksummit-discuss mailing list. There [CORE TOPIC] GPL defense issues was introduced. Even though Linus is not subscribed to this list he speaks his mind, bluntly. A good read.

I'm not aware of anybody but the lawyers and crazy people that were happy about how the BusyBox situation ended up. Please pipe up if you actually know differently. All it resulted in was a huge amount of bickering, and both individual and commercial developers and users fleeing in droves. Botht he original maintainer and the maintainer that started the lawsuits ended up publicly saying it was a disaster.

So I think the whole GPL enforcement issue is absolutely something that should be discussed, but it should be discussed with the working title.


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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday September 04 2016, @12:50PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday September 04 2016, @12:50PM (#397361) Journal

    Fuck the lawyers. That seems to be the summary to me. The ONLY lawyers they want discussing the issue, are lawyers who contribute code.* Everyone else can uninvite themselves.

    *I wonder how many lawyers actually contribute code to anything? I suppose there may be some, but they are probably as rare as cat-dogs.

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04 2016, @12:55PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04 2016, @12:55PM (#397365)

    contribute code

    Rule #1 for contributing code: be a SJW.

    Violation of Rule #1 will cause your contribution to be ignored with extreme prejudice.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Sunday September 04 2016, @01:12PM

    by Scruffy Beard 2 (6030) on Sunday September 04 2016, @01:12PM (#397375)

    I tried writing a piece of legislation once for model parliament,

    It is so much like writing code that it is scary.

    You need to use precise language to avoid unintended consequences. You often make references to other laws whit would be much like using a software library.

    The scary part: the "compiler" is manual for the most part. most the people voting to pass a piece of legislation will not read it. (though my understanding is that a committee may go over it in detail).

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday September 04 2016, @03:17PM

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Sunday September 04 2016, @03:17PM (#397408) Homepage

    The big take-away I got from it was that lawyering up makes you look like a bully and an asshole, and will make people less likely to want to do business with you. The hatred of the lawyers in particular was due to the fact that lawyers don't see lawsuits as a personal thing, while everybody else does.

    Generally speaking, lawyers are pedantic narcissistic dickheads. The coolest and funniest lawyer I met was the DA at the Hollywood courthouse. I was charged with the heinous crime of drinking beer with a homeless person in public, he told me to admit guilt because the stakes were so low that to fight it would make me look like a wormy asshole, and if I admitted guilt the charges would be dismissed. I admitted guilt, and the Black judge with the thick Jamaican accent dismissed the charges.

    The day I was detained for drinking in public at Hollywood a friend I was with was (unlike me) straight-up trashed. He told the driver of the car to pull over immediately because he was going to puke. Since there was no street parking where we were, we pulled into the parking lot of a posh upscale restaurant packed with diners - and when my friend vomited he ran right over to a window and puked his guts out in plain sight of many horrified diners.

    Well, shit, it's Hollywood. What do you expect?

    • (Score: 2) by Yog-Yogguth on Sunday September 04 2016, @06:09PM

      by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Sunday September 04 2016, @06:09PM (#397451) Journal

      Jamaicans can make anything cool :)

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    • (Score: 2) by frojack on Sunday September 04 2016, @09:09PM

      by frojack (1554) on Sunday September 04 2016, @09:09PM (#397506) Journal

      The hatred of the lawyers in particular was due to the fact that lawyers don't see lawsuits as a personal thing, while everybody else does.

      To them its just money in their pocket, no matter if they win or lose, and no matter what carnage they leave in their wake.
      To the people on both sides, those who end up as carnage even if they prevail, there seldom is any "clear win".

      Lawyers: The ISIS of the business world.

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  • (Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04 2016, @08:21PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 04 2016, @08:21PM (#397489)

    Try this game out: https://lgdb.org/game/chaosesque-anthology [lgdb.org]