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posted by janrinok on Monday September 05 2016, @06:08PM   Printer-friendly
from the getting-it-wrong dept.

Craig Murray has some thoughts on Uzbekistan's anti-terrorism policies in the wake of Islam Karmimov's death.

Hillary Clinton and John Kerry courted Islam Karimov, Uzbekistan's brutal dictator, every bit as assiduously as George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld.

The west is interested in gas, gold and uranium, but is still more entranced by the allure of the false gold of Uzbekistan's "successful" anti-terrorism strategy. Karimov was courted as the strong man who held Central Asia against Islamic fundamentalism. His methods – imprisoning, torturing and killing anybody who appeared religious – were viewed as admirable. That all reputable sources acknowledge that 10,000 people are imprisoned solely for their political and religious beliefs did not matter. That young men can be imprisoned or "disappeared" solely for growing a beard, or for praying five times a day, was viewed as "effective".

The truth is that western governments wished they could do the same thing. The very first words Karimov ever spoke to me were to congratulate me on the fact that Blair had just instituted detention without charge for terrorism suspects – a prime example of the effect abroad of western abandonment of civil liberties.

But of course banning legitimate religious expression does not halt extremism, it creates extremism through frustration. That is why there are so many Uzbeks fighting with ISIS or the IMU in Afghanistan, why it was Uzbeks who blew up Istanbul airport. Unreasonable repression creates terrorism, which is just the effect of the Prevent programme in the UK – or banning the burkini in France.

Western politicians' idealisation of Karimov shows the attraction to politicians of the idea of absolute power, and the simplicity of their approach to the complex issues being faced across the globe. The destruction of liberty is not the answer.

Craig Murray is an author, broadcaster and human rights activist. He was British Ambassador to Uzbekistan from August 2002 to October 2004 and Rector of the University of Dundee from 2007 to 2010.


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  • (Score: 2) by Gravis on Tuesday September 06 2016, @02:46AM

    by Gravis (4596) on Tuesday September 06 2016, @02:46AM (#397952)

    i'm not interested in the musing of internet bloggers, i'm interested in actual news. there were no reports on the death of this vile dictator on SN, so why would you think i would want to read someone's opinion about it? i insist on better reporting here because SN is supposed to be the better alternative. nothing about this is better.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Tuesday September 06 2016, @05:07AM

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 06 2016, @05:07AM (#397981) Journal

    If I may point out a few things:

    • His death was not reported here because it was widely reported everywhere else - well, at least in Europe. It was on TV, I read about it in the newspapers and heard a piece on the radio. For much of the world, this is considered 'actual news'.
    • As n1 has already pointed out [soylentnews.org], the "musing of internet bloggers" in this instance comes from a former Ambassador to Uzbekistan who is probably about as well qualified as you can get to discuss this topic.

    • We can't publish stories that please everyone all of the time. This one was obviously not to your liking - move on and enjoy the rest of your day.
    • We await your submission - only 6 stories in the submissions queue (we used to panic if it went below 20!) and half of those will not make the front page.