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posted by n1 on Tuesday September 06 2016, @09:45PM   Printer-friendly
from the no-conference-for-old-men dept.

Douglas Crockford (JSON, JSLint, JSMin, Javascript: The Good Parts) is a founding father of modern Javascript. He is a frequent speaker on the Javascript circuit and, until recently, was the scheduled as the keynote speaker for the Nodevember Conference. For reasons no one can explain, he was removed from the conference schedule to help foster inclusivity. No one (including Crockford) knows why he was banned. Internet commenters have speculated it may have been due to a talk titled "Monads and Gonads" or slut shaming the "promiscuous" web or a his use of the gender (and species) exclusive phrase "hanging out there like a pair of dog balls". Others believe it's because he's a curmudgeon (aka grumpy old white cis heterosexual man). One of the Nodevember organizers (not involved with the decision to ban Crockford) has stepped down.

This is not the first time Crockford has experienced censorship -- he previously ported Maniac Mansion to the NES.


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 06 2016, @10:51PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 06 2016, @10:51PM (#398339)
    Reading the "Internet commenters [github.io]" link, it leads to a medium post [medium.com] by someone called Kas Perch explaining why Douglas was so unwelcome. I also saw her profile picture, read her twitter and github, and retrieved those facts:
    • Fat
    • Short, blue/purple-died hair
    • Blocked comments to stay unchallenged, with passive-aggressive "I won’t be reading them. I don’t feel the need to justify this, either. Thanks ❤" or "Hey trolls! I knew you'd come for round two, and I know where my mute button is"
    • Asks to be referred as "They/them" instead of standard gender
    • Retweets quotes like "The two hardest problems in computer science; timezones and the patriarchy"

    So, yeah, exactly the kind of people who are parodies of themselves that you'd imagine ruining tech for everyone in the name of ideology.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 06 2016, @11:05PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 06 2016, @11:05PM (#398348)

    I also saw her profile picture, read her twitter and github, and retrieved those facts:

            Fat

    It is hilarious how so many reactionaries think that criticizing someone's appearance does anything other than reveal the hollowness of their own position.
    But it sure is a common [twimg.com] thing [photobucket.com] to [usbacklash.org] do. [onepoliticalplaza.com]

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by bob_super on Tuesday September 06 2016, @11:38PM

      by bob_super (1357) on Tuesday September 06 2016, @11:38PM (#398369)

      But GP does have a good point that someone who believes "timezones and patriarchy" are the hardest things in CS needs a proper encounter with a clue brick or ten.
      I'll cast the first stone: Leap seconds.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 06 2016, @11:46PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 06 2016, @11:46PM (#398379)

        And they say SJWs don't have a sense of humor...

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @12:51AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @12:51AM (#398419)

        But GP does have a good point that someone who believes "timezones and patriarchy" are the hardest things in CS needs a proper encounter with a clue brick or ten.
        I'll cast the first stone: Leap seconds.

        Oh yeah? Schedule a job to run at 2AM local time on Daylight Saving Sunday.

        • (Score: 2) by Fnord666 on Wednesday September 07 2016, @03:00AM

          by Fnord666 (652) on Wednesday September 07 2016, @03:00AM (#398507) Homepage

          Oh yeah? Schedule a job to run at 2AM local time on Daylight Saving Sunday.

          That's not a problem. It either runs twice to make up for last time when it didn't run at all, or vice-versa.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @03:34AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @03:34AM (#398522)

            It is a problem when you fail to solve the problem. The job must run at 2AM local time exactly once per day every day. It must not fail on two days of the year. Your answer is unacceptable.

            • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:33AM

              by darkfeline (1030) on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:33AM (#398591) Homepage

              It didn't fail on two days of the year, those two days didn't have a 2AM local time. The computer performed exactly as commanded. Next you'll tell me that it's an error that something scheduled for Feb 30 doesn't run every year.

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:43AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:43AM (#398595)

                Wrong. Only one day of the year doesn't have a 2AM local time. Malibu Stacy says, "Like, DST is hard!"

        • (Score: 2) by Aiwendil on Wednesday September 07 2016, @05:46AM

          by Aiwendil (531) on Wednesday September 07 2016, @05:46AM (#398579) Journal

          Set it to start at 01:59:00 with a one minute -delay.

          Run it twice (02, 03) with TZ set to UTC and start with a wrapper that checks for DST and just exit 0 whatever is on the wrong side (this will allow you to decide which 0230 you want to run stuff at when returning to normal time).

          Just run vixie cron (by far the most common cron) as it deals with this by itself.

          Or just apply a cluebat on everyone that argues for DST (this will have the added advantage of dealing with those that want a permanent DST instead ot a permanent normal time)

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:07AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:07AM (#398585)

            Step 1 : set TZ to one hour east of local time zone
            Step 2 : schedule job for 3AM instead

            • (Score: 2) by Aiwendil on Wednesday September 07 2016, @08:56PM

              by Aiwendil (531) on Wednesday September 07 2016, @08:56PM (#398866) Journal

              Step 3a - miss that they changed the day of DST

              Step 3b - miss that DST was abolished (russia 2012, permanent DST)

              Step 3ba - miss that your entire country changed time (russia 2014, changed to permanent standard/wintertime)

              Step 3bb - find out next eastern TZ's reference town got moved a TZ (russia in march this year)

              Step 3bc - find out you got moved to a different timezone (russia has 11 timezones since march this year, up from 9)

              Step 3c - find out you eastern TZ changes to DST on a different day.

              Step 3d - find out your eastern TZ doesn't use DST (for instance, finland uses DST - russia doesn't [finland also changes DST at 0300-0400])

              Step 3e - realize that all countries in EU changes to DST at the same moment (uk 1-2, de 2-3, pl 3-4)

              There is a reason why we hate DST.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @10:33PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @10:33PM (#398900)

                Step 0 : patch your tzdata file to add a zone with the same DST rules as your local zone, but shift the offset east by one hour.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @01:59AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @01:59AM (#398455)

        But GP does have a good point that someone who believes "timezones and patriarchy" are the hardest things in CS needs a proper encounter with a clue brick or ten.
        I'll cast the first stone: Leap seconds.

        I don't think you've thought that through very well.
        You can write code to handle leap-seconds and pretty much any other case of non-monotonic time changes.
        There are probably libraries that will handle all that complexity for you.

        But you can't code a fix to social problems, include but not limited to, patriarchy.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @02:27AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @02:27AM (#398479)

          you can't code a fix to social problems, include but not limited to, patriarchy.

          DC Fontana already did it. DC is code for Dorothy Catherine.

          There was a time before social coding and github profile photos, when everyone used nicknames instead of real names, and nobody cared about gender identity. With few exceptions. Julianne Frances Haugh made sure everyone who bothered to read the manual knew a woman implemented shadow passwords.

          There was a time like Martin Luther King dreamed of, when code was judged by quality and usefulness instead of authorship. It was a time when no one cared that the Bash shell was authored by Brian Fox, who happens to be a black man.

          The time for tolerance has passed, and we live in another era of prejudice.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @04:28AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @04:28AM (#398548)

            Because nobody works face to face in real life anymore.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @05:09AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @05:09AM (#398570)

              Telecommuting is impossible because PHBs need blowjobs to justify the existence of PHBs.

        • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:44AM

          by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:44AM (#398596)

          > I don't think you've thought that through very well.
          > You can write code to handle leap-seconds and pretty much any other case of non-monotonic time changes.

          I know that you haven't thought that through, because I've been in many discussions with people having to quickly sync to the exact time regardless of when a system booted or when it last shut down. The show must go on, and a second is an enormous time to be off by.
          You can google the various issues that keep popping up with every leap second (the last one was finally better than the previous one, which had been pretty bad).
          Far from trivial.

          > But you can't code a fix to social problems, include but not limited to, patriarchy.

          socialIssues = launchNukes(all, all, now);

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @01:49AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @01:49AM (#398448)

      Because being fat alludes to the person having poor self control over their eating habits. That's not the case for everyone, but it is for the majority. If they can't even bother to take care of themselves properly...

      Applies to weight, smell, cleanliness, hair, dress, etc... Few people takes bums seriously while they'll believe anyone in a well fitted suit regardless of who the person is or what they're saying.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @01:54AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @01:54AM (#398454)

        > Few people takes bums seriously while they'll believe anyone in a well fitted suit regardless of who the person is or what they're saying.

        Which is totally why silicon valley is such a button-down place and wallstreet dresses so casual.
        Because if there is one thing tech people fervently believe -- appearances matter.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @09:28AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @09:28AM (#398626)

      Being fat is a choice, you silly ameriburger.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 06 2016, @11:37PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 06 2016, @11:37PM (#398367)

    • Fat
    • Short, blue/purple-died hair

    Ooh, she sounds hot. Is she single?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @01:07AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @01:07AM (#398424)
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @01:50AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @01:50AM (#398450)

      > Ooh, she sounds hot. Is she single?

      Hands off. She is OP's dream girl.
      You just know he was hate-jacking with his left hand while he typed that post with his right.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2016, @03:22AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2016, @03:22AM (#398999)
      She has a penis.
  • (Score: 2) by Arik on Wednesday September 07 2016, @02:44AM

    by Arik (4543) on Wednesday September 07 2016, @02:44AM (#398497) Journal
    A quick scan of your links reveals that 'she' is an utter moron.

    Wanting to be referred to in plural *should* be a red flag but grasp of the English language is so atrocious among millenials I would hesitate to down a kid for it without something else.

    And yeah, the rest of what you said wasn't worth quoting, and wasnt worth saying.

    You made a good point but you made it in the weakest possible fashion. Almost like you're a plant.

    ^>^
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    • (Score: 2, Informative) by nitehawk214 on Wednesday September 07 2016, @04:01PM

      by nitehawk214 (1304) on Wednesday September 07 2016, @04:01PM (#398756)

      If I am a plant, then I am a cactus.

      Because I am so prickly.

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  • (Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Wednesday September 07 2016, @04:03PM

    by nitehawk214 (1304) on Wednesday September 07 2016, @04:03PM (#398758)

    So this kind of stereotyping stuff is generally not good. But, man, there are an overwhelming number of Chany Binx (you have seen her, you just probably did not know her name) type of "down with the patriarchy" types out there.

    "Oh she's not a real feminist." Well then some of those "real" feminists better reign her the fuck in, because people like Kas Perch are making you all look like morons.

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