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posted by takyon on Wednesday September 07 2016, @02:36AM   Printer-friendly
from the transfer-time dept.

Today, ITT Educational Services, Inc. (ITT) announced that it is closing all of its ITT Technical Institute campuses. For most of the world, that news will be covered as a business story or a political one, but I know that for you it is deeply personal. You are probably wondering what this means for your future; how it is going to affect your finances and your ability to continue your education.

In recent years, ITT has increasingly been the subject of numerous state and federal investigations. In August, ITT's accreditor, the Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools (ACICS) determined that ITT "is not in compliance, and is unlikely to become in compliance with [ACICS] Accreditation Criteria." This came amid increasingly heightened financial oversight measures put in place by the Department over the past two years due to significant concerns about ITT's administrative capacity, organizational integrity, financial viability, and ability to serve students.

[...] Whatever you choose to do, do not give up on your education. Higher education remains the clearest path to economic opportunity and security. Restarting or continuing your education at a high-quality, reputable institution may feel like a setback today, but odds are it will pay off in the long run. There are people and tools – like our College Scorecard – out there to help you pick a program that gives you a real shot at success.

I am proud of your hard work and dedication, and we will do all we can to continue to provide information to you on your options.

Sincerely,

John B. King Jr., U.S. Secretary of Education

Source: Department of Education


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:10AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:10AM (#398586)

    I graduated from ITT in 2001. I've never been extremely proud of that diploma, as I learned very little I wasn't already exposed to, and in at least one case was more knowledgeable than the teacher. However, this closure has me wondering about my resume, and how such an institution looks to prospective employers. Thankfully I'm not on the market right now, and I'm even (finally) enrolled in a Bachelor degree at a state college and am all set to begin next year. If not for that, I wonder if it would be better to have nothing at all in the education section of my resume. I've been programming for so long now that I think it could be overlooked, but then the whole reason I'm going back to school is the number of people that see my lack of a 4 year degree and tick that as a problem. "No formal structured education" can be a hard criticism to fight. Now I currently have no 4 year degree and the one degree I do possess is from a disgraced school. Students that graduated six months ago get their loans forgiven, but what about everyone else who attended this school that just landed on everyone's shit list? No recompense, not even any sympathy. My decision to go to the school at all will be questioned, and I'll suffer for it.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:32AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:32AM (#398589)

    It makes no difference what shit you put on your resume. If you haven't founded the next UberFace by now, you're fucked because you're old, coder.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:43AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:43AM (#398594)

    Here is what a resume coach told me about that sort of thing.

    Most people only care about the biggest one. So for now just put ITT. But after you get the degree drop it and neglect to put the year on there. For example do not bother putting your high school degree on there after you get the college one. It has worked for me. 5 interviews in 3 weeks. Helps I am willing to move pretty much anywhere.

    I have all sorts of things I am qualified in that I do not put on my resume. Why? I do not want to do that stuff anymore. If it comes up during my normal work I will perk up and tell someone but on the resume? No. I think I am 100% done with crystal reports and sql server.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:44AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @06:44AM (#398597)

    Everyone's circumstances are different. But... I would expect 15 years of work experience plus good references to completely overshadow your degree. You probably can't go into management anywhere bigger than a mom&pop operation without a "real" 4 year degree. But otherwise, from one AC to another, I wouldn't worry about it.

    • (Score: 2) by tibman on Wednesday September 07 2016, @02:13PM

      by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 07 2016, @02:13PM (#398700)

      Get to program forever and escape all those meetings? Hell yeah!

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @01:12PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @01:12PM (#398670)

    A degree from ITT Tech, even before the closing, would be an immediate disqualification as far as I'm concerned. Keep it off the resume and pretend it never happened.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @08:53PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 07 2016, @08:53PM (#398862)

    "I've never been extremely proud of that diploma"

    That is a pretty typical feeling. I spent decades trying to minimize discussing ever going there. I now have enough experience and other college classes to not have to talk about it, but i'm still bitter they screwed me ( and many many others ) and got away with it.

    They would prey on young kids who didnt know better ( myself included.. learned it was a scam too late )