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posted by cmn32480 on Thursday September 08 2016, @03:46PM   Printer-friendly
from the because-we-were-inverted dept.

U.S. defense officials say that a Russian fighter jet flew as close as within 3 meters of a US Navy P-8A Poseidon aircraft in international airspace:

The Pentagon says a Russian fighter plane flew within about 10ft (3m) of one of its reconnaissance aircraft operating over the Black Sea. US officials described the intercept by the SU-27 jet on Wednesday as "dangerous and unprofessional". Russia's defence ministry said the US plane had been approaching Russian territory and the SU-27 pilots had adhered to international rules. Russia is currently carrying out military exercises in the Black Sea.

Pentagon spokesman Capt Jeff Davis said the US Navy P-8A Poseidon aircraft had been conducting routine operations in international airspace when the Russian fighter made the unsafe manoeuvre. "These actions have the potential to unnecessarily escalate tensions, and could result in a miscalculation or accident," he said. A US defence official quoted by AFP news agency said the Russian plane had flown within 30ft of the P-8A before closing to just 10ft.

Also at Reuters. You may remember this similar incident.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2016, @03:51PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2016, @03:51PM (#399197)

    .. maybe you shouldn't try to poke the BEAR INSIDE ITS OWN FRIGGIN' CAVE, cowboy?

    Unless, of course, you 're done with that finger. And with your face.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by bob_super on Thursday September 08 2016, @05:07PM

    by bob_super (1357) on Thursday September 08 2016, @05:07PM (#399244)

    Old meme, still pretty accurate: http://i.imgur.com/UzaEGyw.jpg?1 [imgur.com]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2016, @10:42PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2016, @10:42PM (#399389)

      Funny meme, but it's very disingenuous.

      First, remember Ukraine. I think there is plenty of evidence in recent past of Russian adventurism. I'm sure some apologists will say how they really did want to join Russia... and for all I know that could be right and all the hints it was military annexation are propaganda. However, I'm sure you agree there is evidence of Russian expansionism.

      Second, your link intentionally confuses cause and effect. I would suggest it is a "country (e.g. Germany) wants protection against external threats, including Russia expansionism, so asks that a US base be built in their country." If you weren't aware, the hosting countries pay quite a bit for those military bases. They may not pay 100% of the operating costs, but they still aren't cheap. They presumably are getting something for that money they spend.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2016, @09:22AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2016, @09:22AM (#399549)

        Crimea voted to join Russia. The west is just refusing to acknowledge the results (we only like democracy when it's in our favor). Not because of any fraud, we intentionally refused to send people to monitor the vote because we were afraid that without fraud we would have to acknowledge the result.

        The rebels in the other part of the country are still fighting. Yes, they get unofficial support from Russia, but Russia has not moved to take over that part of Ukraine.

        Oh, and guess what. The rebels in Ukraine have gotten less support from Russia than ISIS got from the west (ISIS could basically walk in because the west bombed anything Syria had to keep them out).

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2016, @03:47PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2016, @03:47PM (#399655)

          Crimea voted to join Russia. The west is just refusing to acknowledge the results (we only like democracy when it's in our favor). Not because of any fraud, we intentionally refused to send people to monitor the vote because we were afraid that without fraud we would have to acknowledge the result.

          Like I said, it could be the truth that Crimea wanted to join. I do know that my BS meter triggers like mad at the idea that this was a grassroots movement (the voter turnout numbers are exceedingly high and bias, the Russian military "volunteers" and "vacationers" entering the country, the timeline of the military entering prior to the votes, etc). However, I don't know ground truth. All the news reports I've heard have been propaganda... I doubt it, but it colud be true.

          Regardless, like I said, even if it were a legitimate request in Crimea, certainly you'll agree that there is at least things which can be interpreted as evidence of Russian adventurism by those who want to perceive it as such.

        • (Score: 2) by butthurt on Saturday September 10 2016, @01:46AM

          by butthurt (6141) on Saturday September 10 2016, @01:46AM (#399881) Journal

          The Crimean referendum didn't offer voters the option of remaining part of Ukraine on the same terms as before the revolution.

          A return to the 1992 Constitution — adopted after the Soviet collapse but quickly thrown out by the post-Soviet Ukraine — would effectively provide for Crimea’s independence, while remaining part of Ukraine.

          --http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/world/europe/crimea-vote-does-not-offer-choice-of-status-quo.html [nytimes.com]

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday September 09 2016, @07:17AM

      by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Friday September 09 2016, @07:17AM (#399512) Homepage
      Not at all accurate. Are you insinuating that it's inappropriate for NATO countries to have NATO bases on *their own soil*? If you remove the NATO countries from that map, it makes a far weaker point.

      If you want to make a far stronger point, ignore NATO, just look at *US* military and intelligence installations around the world - there are *way* more of them than there are NATO bases. I honestly can't think of more than a tiny handful of sovereign countries where I'm sure there are no US installations.
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 10 2016, @02:03AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 10 2016, @02:03AM (#399890)

        Imagine that Canada, France [wikipedia.org], the Bahamas and Mexico formed a military alliance that excluded the United States. Would United Statesians not feel nervous about that? Recall the Cuban Missile Crisis. [wikipedia.org]

  • (Score: 2) by turgid on Thursday September 08 2016, @05:11PM

    by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Thursday September 08 2016, @05:11PM (#399250) Journal

    That nice Mr Putin [youtube.com] is widely maligned and misunderstood in the West. He only has our best interests and well-being at heart. He's a true hero, brave, and shining example [youtube.com] to us all.

  • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday September 08 2016, @05:18PM

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Thursday September 08 2016, @05:18PM (#399255) Journal

    Wait, which bear owns International Airspace?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2016, @05:32PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2016, @05:32PM (#399266)

      The ManBearPig aka Putin owns it all. The north pole, international airspace and everything any Russian has even thought about once.