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posted by cmn32480 on Thursday September 08 2016, @03:46PM   Printer-friendly
from the because-we-were-inverted dept.

U.S. defense officials say that a Russian fighter jet flew as close as within 3 meters of a US Navy P-8A Poseidon aircraft in international airspace:

The Pentagon says a Russian fighter plane flew within about 10ft (3m) of one of its reconnaissance aircraft operating over the Black Sea. US officials described the intercept by the SU-27 jet on Wednesday as "dangerous and unprofessional". Russia's defence ministry said the US plane had been approaching Russian territory and the SU-27 pilots had adhered to international rules. Russia is currently carrying out military exercises in the Black Sea.

Pentagon spokesman Capt Jeff Davis said the US Navy P-8A Poseidon aircraft had been conducting routine operations in international airspace when the Russian fighter made the unsafe manoeuvre. "These actions have the potential to unnecessarily escalate tensions, and could result in a miscalculation or accident," he said. A US defence official quoted by AFP news agency said the Russian plane had flown within 30ft of the P-8A before closing to just 10ft.

Also at Reuters. You may remember this similar incident.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Yog-Yogguth on Thursday September 08 2016, @07:29PM

    by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Thursday September 08 2016, @07:29PM (#399324) Journal

    A huge radar signature (or two) without any transponders heads directly towards your airspace and are about to cross into it. They're big enough to be bombers or airliners or as it turns out: large surveillance & electronic warfare aircraft (which actually still makes it a potential nuclear first strike scenario).

    It could be anything but most likely it is, as usual in the case of Russia, some Usians/Natodes testing your awareness so instead of shooting the targets down (it would take less effort but is stupid i.e. Turkey) you send up some interceptors to do a visual confirmation that indeed it is the usual suspects and not anything else and "yes hello we see you now too" and to have a little fun (aka training) and make the idiots in the US DoD Press department wail and whine again like the last time or the time before while parading some pussified general in front of them to the chagrin of anyone on their side with a clue.

    Well I laugh, I've even kept a cockpit video of a NATO F-16 of my own country being intercepted like this, the reaction is hilarious. Fucking scary for the pilot (and oh boy can you hear it if you understand the language LOL) but hilarious as hell afterwards.

    Don't like it and don't want a missile instead? Then stop doing it; it's as simple as turning on your transponders or staying the hell away.

    Or simply accept the status quo like it has been for over half a century: we do it to them as well, all the fucking time, hundreds of times each year (or thousands if you're Turkey —against everyone).

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2016, @08:06PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2016, @08:06PM (#399339)

    How did you decide the US had transponders disabled?

    • (Score: 2) by Yog-Yogguth on Friday September 09 2016, @11:20AM

      by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 09 2016, @11:20AM (#399565) Journal

      Because that's the normal procedure "everywhere by everyone" including Russia of course when anybody does this kind of prodding. The whole point is usually (unless it's an actual attack) to test the responsiveness of the opponent. Transponders are always off in this case because that introduces more uncertainty into the picture (the opposing force then only has radar rather than radar plus your transponders) and forces an interception for the purpose of finding out when, how fast, from where, and so on the interception takes place and compare it to previous prodding for continued analysis. This is sort of accepted behavior but whining about being intercepted is just funny and silly since the whole point is to be intercepted and everyone involved knows it.

      If that's not what is being attempted then there would be no reason not to utilize the the Treaty on Open Skies [wikipedia.org] which enables the US and other signatories like Russia to fly unarmed observation planes without any drama in a normal fashion just the same way it enables any other signatory to fly over any of the countries. Transponders are always on in this case.

      The fact that the US even attempts to whine is because they know most people have no fucking clue at all and might buy into their bullshit , particularly if that's all they hear anywhere (the usual MSM stooges) and parrot the "evil Russians" or "Russian propaganda" nonsense they popularize.

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  • (Score: 4, Touché) by EQ on Thursday September 08 2016, @10:22PM

    by EQ (1716) on Thursday September 08 2016, @10:22PM (#399385)

    Transponders were on - its standard flight rules for the USAF/USN has transponders for IFF on and generally use of Mode I or II is routine. Also they can call on GUARD frequency as well. International flight rules were obeyed and the actions were all in international airspace- except by the bozos flying way too close (10 f!). Got any more Russian propaganda you want to regurgitate?

    • (Score: 2) by Yog-Yogguth on Friday September 09 2016, @09:10AM

      by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 09 2016, @09:10AM (#399547) Journal

      And how do you know the transponders were on?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2016, @11:04PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 08 2016, @11:04PM (#399397)

    I've even kept a cockpit video of a NATO F-16 of my own country being intercepted like this

    (or thousands if you're Turkey —against everyone)

    Ouroboros

    You are Greek then, let me guess: irc groovy network era?

    • (Score: 2) by Yog-Yogguth on Friday September 09 2016, @09:09AM

      by Yog-Yogguth (1862) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 09 2016, @09:09AM (#399546) Journal

      Nope.

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