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posted by martyb on Friday September 09 2016, @06:23AM   Printer-friendly
from the who's-targetted-next? dept.

Nami LaChance writes at The Intercept that a google-incubated program that targets potential ISIS members with deradicalizing content will soon be used to target violent right-wing extremists in North America. Using research and targeted advertising, the initiative by London-based startup Moonshot CVE and Google's Jigsaw technology incubator targets potentially violent Jihadis and directs them to a YouTube channel with videos that refute ISIS propaganda. In the pilot program countering ISIS, the so-called Redirect Method collected the metadata of 320,000 individuals over the course of eight weeks, using 1,700 keywords, and served them advertisements that led them to the videos.

"I think this is an extremely promising method," says Richard Stengel, U.S. Undersecretary of State for public diplomacy and public affairs. In the ISIS pilot program, the YouTube channel pulls preexisting videos that, according to Yasmin Green, the head of research and development for Jigsaw, "refute ISIS's messaging." One video is from a woman who secretly filmed her life in ISIS-controlled Raqqa. Another shows young people in Mosul, their faces obscured by keffiyehs for their protection, talking about life under the Islamic State. "The branding philosophy for the entire pilot project was not to appear judgmental or be moralistic, but really to pique interest of individuals who have questions, questions that are being raised and answered by the Islamic State."

Ross Frenett, co-founder of Moonshot, says his company and Jigsaw are now working with funding from private groups to target other violent extremists, including the hard right in America. "Our efforts during phase two, when we're going to focus on the violent far right in America, will be very much focused on the small element of those that are violent. The interesting thing about how they behave is they're a little bit more brazen online these days than ISIS fan boys," says Frenett.


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  • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Friday September 09 2016, @05:22PM

    by jmorris (4844) on Friday September 09 2016, @05:22PM (#399710)

    Seriously. Are you guys going be as slow as Blacks to figure this one out? You aren't anywhere near the top of the Pyramid of Oppression. People who want to kill you are. Blacks continue loyally voting Dem decades after they were warehoused off in slums and mostly replaced with Mexicans. Gays are too numerically small to matter when they can replace you with millions of muslims screaming for your blood, but who will vote Democrat just as loyally. They figure they can have their cake and eat it too though, bring in the millions of muslims and the surviving gays will still vote Democrat.

    I'm a 'right wing nutjob' and I won't support your efforts to force me to pretend you are normal. And that is the extent of it, leave us alone and we really don't care about what you do. Muslims want to kill you. Choose your allies wisely.

    Lemme leave you with some links to Milo the Internet Troll's words on the whole gay thing:

    Milo in Orlando: Gays, Like Jews, Should Say ‘Never Again!’ [breitbart.com]

    Milo: It’s An Islam Problem, Not an Islamic Terror Problem [breitbart.com]

    Milo: Donald Trump Is The Most Pro Gay Candidate In American Electoral History [breitbart.com]

    Milo: ‘I Can’t Imagine Why Any Gay Person’ Would Vote for Hillary [breitbart.com]

    How Donald Trump Made It Cool To Be Gay Again [breitbart.com]

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  • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Friday September 09 2016, @07:59PM

    by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Friday September 09 2016, @07:59PM (#399772) Journal

    Where am I forcing you to pretend I'm normal? I want to continue to access the services I've been accessing with, prior to Obamacare, my own fucking money. You assholes decided to join feminists and Islamists for reasons I cannot comprehend. You believe the horseshit you do about assless chaps and all the other fucked up shit for reasons I cannot comprehend. You want violence against me because of a bogeyman in your own head.

    You believe I am already using violence against you to “force” you to believe something or another.

    You are the one who wants to lock me up and control my body. You are the one who cannot live and let live. And if you attempt to use lethal force against me, you're damned right I'll respond with lethal force.

    Predictably, you've assumed I was always a secret Democrat all along. My Libertarian party membership means nothing to you. My voting record means nothing to you. I am not an individual to you. You are no different from a feminist or an Islamist, almost. I could always count on feminists not to become overtly violent. I could always count on Islamists to be too few and far between to care about. You have a credible intention to initiate violence to protect your Hunnies from an imaginary bathroom rapist, and you've got plenty of fellow travelers. You had better damned bet that if you come after me, I will not be going without a fight. You can control my cold, dead body.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2016, @09:22PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 09 2016, @09:22PM (#399796)

      You are the one who wants to lock me up and control my body. You are the one who cannot live and let live.

      Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm basically from jmorris' camp (reformed ex-Republican, now I don't care what you do so long as all parties participate voluntarily), and I have no idea what you're referencing here. What reason or evidence is there for jmorris (or a group you think he supports or is part of) to kidnap you and throw you in a cage, or lay hands on your body for any reason other than with your willing and revokable-at-any-time consent?

      And if you attempt to use lethal force against me, you're damned right I'll respond with lethal force.

      As well you should. [youtube.com]

      • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Friday September 09 2016, @11:34PM

        by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Friday September 09 2016, @11:34PM (#399836) Journal

        The SPLC may not be the most unbiased organization out there, but here's one concrete example I have personal experience with: Christian Identity [splcenter.org]. SPLC focuses on the racism and anti-Semitism (rooted in the belief that the Caucasians are the lost tribe of Isreal and their god's “true” chosen ones), but they believe things very similar to what jmorris usually posts about gays. Furthermore, and I admit I do not know if jmorris personally believes this, they believe that gays are actually demons. My ex-father literally believes I'm a shapeshifting demon who murdered his son and unborn grandchildren.

        So, some of them wish to kill me on sight, not unlike Jihadis. Most won't, but they will whinge about the Jewish conspiracy preventing them from doing their god's bidding.

        Now, let's assume that jmorris is not that far gone. Let's assume he's a gentle soul who honestly wants to help me. Here's how the logic behind throwing me in a cage for no other reason than being born “abnormally” works.

        1. The line he'll bring out that being gay is abnormal can absolutely be backed up with the obvious truth: no, it's not normal in a sterile, statistical sense.
        2. That established, the next position is that what's abnormal is a psychological illness that can be cured.
        3. That established, then we say that there are certain psychological illnesses that we should treat that rob the patient of their ability to consent. Say, oh, advanced schizophrenia.
        3a. A variation is to argue that we have a duty to prevent people suffering a mental illness from harming themselves. The example used here might be suicidal depression.

        This is all quite reasonable so far.

        4. Now establish that homosexuality is a mental illness that causes self-harm. Statistics about alcohol and drug abuse and STDs among LGBT people will come in handy here.
        5. Take the decision to treat out of the hands of the medical community at large with legislation. That AAPS lobbying organization who added their 2¢ about Clinton's health would be a good tool here.

        And there you are! Final step is to send the thugs to my door to kidnap me and lock me in a cage! Christian-brand Sharia law: the kinder, gentler Sharia law, at our service.

        • (Score: 1) by Fauxlosopher on Saturday September 10 2016, @01:04AM

          by Fauxlosopher (4804) on Saturday September 10 2016, @01:04AM (#399863) Journal

          As near as I can figure, "Christian Identity" is more or less a code word for "neo-Nazi" and/or white supremacism; I've not been much interested in learning more. These people has as much chance of obtaining political power in the USA as the sun has of burning out next week. What idiology I've seen from it is vile and nonsensical (insidiously based on a kernel of truth that all individuals and people-groups are not exactly identical). I personally write them off as effectively crazy and dangerous and treat them as I do other dangerous or crazy people: I leave them alone and try to stay out of their way.

          For other people with wildly unsubstantiated beliefs, the only proper approach I see to take with them is to try to get them to examine their own premises with careful questions, and leave them to their illusions if they refuse to engage. If such people turn to violence to impose their will on others, then defensive violence - to include deadly force - is completely acceptable. (This is coming from a self-avowed born-again Christ-follower who does believe that homosexuality is a sin, equal in magnitude to each one of the whole stinking pile of sins that I personally am choosing to engage in, and in fact I write that Yeshua Himself has demanded of His USian followers the task of contradicting a lawless and corrupt US federal government in addition to the primary task of trying to peacefully convince as many people as possible to willingly make Yeshua the boss of their life to regain the mutually-beneficial relationship with the Creator. Opposing a corrupt and lawless US fedgov does NOT mean trying to impose a theocracy - it means that the government must be held to its legal limits in the Constitution, which prohibits a theocracy, and I argue that the Constitution's authority is limited to that of its creator, which ultimately is equal to that of a one single human being's.)

          Painting even authoritarian Republicans with the brush of neo-Nazis seems completely untruthful and way out of line (and I've accused Republicans of supporting the murder-by-cop of innocent people just because the victims are unpopular). For the people that want to kill you on sight (and there definitely are some, just as with me), I agree: kill them when they try to kill you, and if I'm nearby, I'll help you kill your attackers!

          The mental-health-system-as-a-weapon you describe is definitely something you and I agree on as being a serious threat to both of us. The use of such was documented by Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, and I'm sure many other authoritarian governments as a "sterile" means of murdering despised minorities. I don't care who wants to impose such an illegal government system: it is vile no matter who has the reigns of power. The root cause of the problem here is not "omg the gays!!!", but it is a corrupt government whose agents would literally be acting criminally, and in turn a proper response to force used or threatened by government agents acting in a wholly criminal fashion is defensive force, to include deadly force.

          (As for the topic of this article, when a government becomes lawless, the people who support the Rule of Law become a threat to the government's existence. This would explain why the US government is so hostile towards "patriot groups".)

          • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday September 10 2016, @06:48PM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday September 10 2016, @06:48PM (#400064) Journal

            When the guy doing the saving is the guy whose irascible temper is what you're being saved from, that's not a gift; that's terrorism.

            You have well and truly earned that "Faux" in front of your name, and you would not recognize Jesus or his teachings if he slapped you across your arrogant, theologically-illiterate face hard enough to leave a big, angry red handprint with a size 98 nailhole in it. When my girlfriend and I get married we're gonna send you wedding photos if we can figure out where you live, JUST to piss you off.

            Consider this: after a decade-plus of studying logic, philosophy, church history, comparative religion, apologetics, and counter-apologetics, I've come to the conclusion that not only are the Abrahamic religions false, but that if Yahweh is anything other than myth, he's evil...literally infinitely evil, if he's actually as powerful as you groveling authoritarian pig-bottoms think.

            --
            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 11 2016, @01:21AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 11 2016, @01:21AM (#400159)

              When my girlfriend and I get married we're gonna send you wedding photos if we can figure out where you live, JUST to piss you off.

              Regardless, it wouldn't accomplish your goal. I've told you before: I don't hate, not even people like Muslims who literally want to torture and kill me (though I definitely will fight back and kill them first if possible). You own your own self and are responsible for your own choices. As best I can tell [soylentnews.org], in the USA you can do whatever you like to/with whomever you like as long as everyone involved consents. All laws to the contrary are themselves illegal and void of any authority in the same was as if they had never been passed in the first place.

              There are quite a few things about Yahweh that I don't understand, such as 'why create beings who to an omniscient being are known in advance to despise their Creator', though as as I've also said before, as long as the fundamentals of the observable universe escape me, I try not to worry too much about concepts that are more complex than said universe.

              None of that changes the fact that my behavior and mindset as a Christian USian is to demand the law be followed, which means government is limited to the authority held by a single human individual, which also means that a theocratic US government would also be illegal. If you want to continue in treating me as an enemy, that's fine, but you seem to be doing so for irrational reasons (also fine, as they're your reasons to have even if I think they're dumb).