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posted by janrinok on Sunday September 11 2016, @06:32AM   Printer-friendly
from the got-to-hand-it-to-them dept.

I figured that this is a topic, while not dear to us, is relevant to this crowd -- well maybe not the public part. Italy's highest court has ruled that masturbation in public is not a crime, as long as it is not conducted in the presence of minors.

The man was convicted in May 2015 after he performed the act in front of students on the University of Catania campus, according to documents filed with Supreme Court. The man was sentenced to three months in prison and ordered to pay a fine of €3,200 (around $3,600).

However, the defendant's lawyer appealed the case to the country's highest court, which ruled on the side of the accused in June but only just made its decision public. Judges ruled that public masturbation out of the presence of minors is no longer deemed criminal conduct due to a change in the law last year, which decriminalized the act.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/08/europe/italy-supreme-court-masturbation/


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  • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Sunday September 11 2016, @05:27PM

    by jmorris (4844) on Sunday September 11 2016, @05:27PM (#400328)

    So every time we redefine something that for thousands of years was universally held to be deviant behavior to now be normal, folks like me note the pattern and observe we are on a slippery slope to Hell and get told "Shut UP!", that I'm just being paranoid or a "hater". Ok, now you can walk up to a woman and spank it so long as she is old enough? Still no trend to spot here?

    World War T is about over, spanking in public really isn't a new war, just a skirmish; I'm still taking action of where the new front will open up, fucking children or animals? Considering the trend is toward more rights given to animals I'm going with children. I figure the Progs have already got all the prerequisites in place and have just been waiting for the time to strike when they needed another turn of the ratchet. Because the ratchet must always be in motion, ever left, ever more wicked and dysfunctional. Always keeping the Conservatives outraged but focused on the current outrage and unable to even think about fighting back or reversing any of the previous turns of the ratchet.

    First is the general battle against any morality at all, so the near universal sense of moral revulsion means little. How DARE you bring your morals into the public square. Of course the whole Progressive movement is a religious crusade in disguise and the argument is basically a prohibition of any OTHER religion, i.e. a defacto establishment of an official church.... a most unholy one.

    Second is the trend to give children more rights and parents less. Hillary Clinton was directly involved in that effort decades ago, btw.

    But third and up until now the debate ending argument, "children can't consent" is utterly undermined and ready to fall. Can't consent, huh? Our debased culture teaches that if a kid has undergone puberty and hasn't had sex they practically have a treatable condition. The gimmick is that they can consent to all the sex they want, so long as it with other minors. But that barrier has no real logical basis and is not only ready to fall, they are already pushing on it hard.

    Lets start with teachers having sex with students. Female teacher and boy, the other way is still "Pervert! Lock him up!" For now. First celebrated cases were met with public outrage and punishment was severe. Lately the outrage was been focused more on the power imbalance, the teacher misusing authority and less the adult having sex with a minor. Lately we had a female teacher abuse a girl and throw the gay card so that will also quickly get normalized. NAMBLA is of course ready to explain at a moments notice the importance of the 'mentoring' a sexually confused teen gets from his 'relationship' with an older gay man. So that won't take long. Leaving perv men buggering little girls as the single holdout, with absolutely no legal or moral structure remaining to support banning it.

    Which will have the interesting side effect of proving, once and for all, the non-existence of God. When pervs can openly bugger little girls and we don't get a fiery mountain hurled from the sky in response, pretty much settles that question once and for all.

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 11 2016, @05:35PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 11 2016, @05:35PM (#400330)

    And here when I was about to post a rebuttal to Francis, jmorris comes along and shows me that Francis was being perfectly reasonable.

    When pervs can openly bugger little girls and we don't get a fiery mountain hurled from the sky in response, pretty much settles that question once and for all.

    Come on, MikeeUSA! This is your big chance!

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday September 11 2016, @06:12PM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday September 11 2016, @06:12PM (#400343) Journal
    The obvious rebuttal is that public masturbation is still fined. It's now at a punishment level similar to jaywalking or disturbing the peace. The punishment for a crime should be commensurate to the harm of the crime.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2016, @08:58AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2016, @08:58AM (#400590)

      jaywalking - lol. That isn't even a thing in most of Europe.

  • (Score: 2) by Justin Case on Monday September 12 2016, @11:40AM

    by Justin Case (4239) on Monday September 12 2016, @11:40AM (#400634) Journal

    Perhaps you could help me understand something that has never made sense to me.

    Why do religious people think pleasure == hell == deviant == wicked == outrageous == perverted?

    Why do you cling to the idea that your imaginary man-in-the-sky would design bodies specifically to experience pleasure and then hurl fiery mountains at them when they use their own bodies as designed?

    Your "morality" seems centered on not pissing off the mountain-thrower, who gets angry over some pretty inexplicable things, but not -- interestingly -- massive suffering, starvation, war...

    Pleasure wicked. Suffering noble.

    My morality is more along the lines of "don't harm someone without their consent". This, then, would permit forms of pleasure that have the consent of the participants. Like the time I saw a woman masturbating at a nude beach, with an audience that was enjoying the view, and no mountains were hurled.