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posted by cmn32480 on Sunday September 11 2016, @05:48PM   Printer-friendly
from the there's-gotta-be-a-downside-to-this dept.

According to a post on the Google Online Security Blog, beginning in January 2017 Google Chrome will begin flagging all sites that use traditional HTTP rather than HTTPS for passwords or other sensitive information as "insecure". It also indicates that Google plans to eventually start flagging ALL traditional HTTP-only sites as "insecure". While HTTPS has always made sense for truly sensitive information, a pure HTTPS web does have implications for legacy tools - essentially if anyone is not using the absolute latest of one of the "big three" web browsers, they will always potentially be just one security update away from being locked out of the web.


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by isostatic on Sunday September 11 2016, @11:31PM

    by isostatic (365) on Sunday September 11 2016, @11:31PM (#400417) Journal

    DuckDuckGo is terrible. I use it as a default, and if guess 40% of the time I end up going to google instead after ddg fails.

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  • (Score: 1) by Francis on Monday September 12 2016, @12:25AM

    by Francis (5544) on Monday September 12 2016, @12:25AM (#400431)

    It depends what you're looking for. I find that even just typing in error messages into the major search engines tends to be rather inconsistent. And god help you if you're looking for something more complicated or where there's multiple ways of phrasing it.

    For all the efforts at making the search engines smarter, they're even dumber than they were 15 years ago.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2016, @07:26AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2016, @07:26AM (#400554)

    For a proper judgement/comparison you should then switch to using Google by default and seeing what percentage it fails and switch to ddg if Google fails to see if ddg does better.

    • (Score: 2) by isostatic on Monday September 12 2016, @02:39PM

      by isostatic (365) on Monday September 12 2016, @02:39PM (#400731) Journal

      I used to use google, and never felt the need to go elsewhere

      However in a vain attempt to reclaim some control over my online presence I moved to DDG. It works half the time, maybe even most of the time.

      Here's a query I just used though

      tuc conference 2016

      As I wanted to know when it's finished.
      https://www.tuc.org.uk/events/congress-2016 [tuc.org.uk]

      Would be a page I expect to come up with - which is the page for the TUC conference 2016.

      DDG comes up with
      https://www.tuc.org.uk/equality-issues/gender-equality/tuc-womens-conference [tuc.org.uk]

      Which is a conference from 2015. Second result was the TUC homepage, and it's not until about result 8 that the TUC 2016 conference is mentioned, and it's a copy of the program.

      Google comes up with the right page as the first result.

      lib dem conference 2016

      comes up with the right result on DDG, so no need to go to google for that.

  • (Score: 2) by TheRaven on Monday September 12 2016, @09:20AM

    by TheRaven (270) on Monday September 12 2016, @09:20AM (#400599) Journal
    Whenever DDG doesn't find what I'm looking for, I send the query to Google and Bing (which DDG makes easy - just stick !bing or !google in the search box). I've recently done that quite a bit, as I've been searching for things that don't appear to exist on the web (anyone know how to get an Asus TF700T out of an infinite reboot loop with the stock firmware?). I see a fairly consistent result: if something isn't in DDG, I get no results from DDG. I then get pages and pages of irrelevant results from Google and Bing. A couple of months ago, Bing actually did find the result that I was looking for, when neither DDG nor Google did, but I still can't bring myself to consider using Bing as a default search engine.
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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2016, @11:46AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2016, @11:46AM (#400638)

      "just stick !bing or !google in the search box"

      !g works as a shorthand for !google.
      I also often use !gm (Google Maps), !gscholar, !gtranslate, !w (Wikipedia)...

      (Just checked, !b works as !bing.)

      • (Score: 2) by TheRaven on Monday September 12 2016, @01:54PM

        by TheRaven (270) on Monday September 12 2016, @01:54PM (#400702) Journal
        Thanks! I use !wiki a lot, !w will save lots of typing.
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