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posted by takyon on Monday September 12 2016, @08:57PM   Printer-friendly
from the I-want-my-internet-tv dept.

Jon Brodkin over at Ars Technica is reporting on a filing submitted to the FCC by Netflix last week asking thc FCC to "declare that home Internet data caps are unreasonable and that they limit customers' ability to watch online video."

From the article:

Netflix submitted a filing last week for the FCC's annual investigation of broadband deployment, a review that is mandated by Congress in Section 706 of the Telecommunications Act. Specifically, Congress requires the FCC to determine whether advanced telecommunications capability is being deployed to all Americans in a reasonable and timely fashion and "take immediate action" to accelerate deployment if it's not happening to the commission's satisfaction.

The commission's assessment generally focuses on availability and speed, but Netflix wants the commission to add data caps to the mix. "Data caps (especially low data caps) and usage-based pricing ('UBP') discourage a consumer's consumption of broadband, and may impede the ability of some households to watch Internet television in a manner and amount that they would like," Netflix wrote. "For this reason, the Commission should hold that data caps on fixed-­line networks ­­and low data caps on mobile networks­­ may unreasonably limit Internet television viewing and are inconsistent with Section 706."

[...] Netflix argued that a 300GB-per-month allotment "is required just to meet the Internet television needs of an average American," without accounting for other things consumers want to do on the Internet, like Web browsing and downloading games and applications. "The Commission should recognize that data caps and UBP on fixed line networks are an unnecessary constraint on advanced telecommunications capability," Netflix said.

Comcast, the nation's largest home Internet provider, recently raised its caps from 300GB to 1TB, making it easier for customers to watch online video instead of Comcast's own cable TV service. But consumers' data needs are increasing quickly enough that "today's 'above-average' Internet consumer is tomorrow's average Internet consumer," Netflix said.

Data caps also aren't necessary for network management, Netflix argued. The online video provider pointed to a government survey from 2014 in which ISPs told regulators that congestion wasn't a problem on their networks. ISPs have alternatively described data caps "as a way to align consumers' use of the network with what they pay," Netflix said.

So what say you, Soylentils? Do data caps discriminate against online video providers?

Do data caps negatively impact other types of Internet usage?

Is online video the bulk of the data you consume through your Internet connection?

Do you have a data cap? If so, what is it and how often do you exceed it? If you do exceed it, what steps does your ISP take in response?


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2016, @10:01PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2016, @10:01PM (#400963)

    Because bandwidth costs are a tiny component of total costs.
    If your electric bill is $90 for overhead and $5 for electricity why even bother metering in the first place? Metering itself has a cost and is surprisingly hard to get right. Save money all around and just skip it. That's been working great for decades now.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2016, @10:18PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2016, @10:18PM (#400974)

    All the weed growers want to know where you live :P

    Seriously, what power company doesn't meter? I'm metered for everything! Except sewage, but I think that's rolled into the water bill, not sure.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2016, @10:38PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2016, @10:38PM (#400987)

      > Seriously, what power company doesn't meter?

      Seriously, what post did you read?

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by gmrath on Monday September 12 2016, @10:55PM

      by gmrath (4181) on Monday September 12 2016, @10:55PM (#400993)

      The story goes that Thomas Edison made sure he invented (or at least perfected) the electric power meter before his company electrified anything beyond what was needed for testing and proof of concept so customers could be billed as he wanted not one electron to escape the billing process, he being the consummate entrepreneur and monopolist, er, capitalist. And indeed your sewage cost is rolled into the water bill since a municipality figures what comes out is roughly equal to what goes in plus a little for fixed costs for physical plant: maintenance of water lines and sewerage, et cetera.

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2016, @11:11PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 12 2016, @11:11PM (#401001)

        Sort of, friend. Here's the real deal:

        But the greatest Electrical Pioneer of them all was Thomas Edison, who
        was a brilliant inventor despite the fact that he had little formal
        education and lived in New Jersey. Edison's first major invention in
        1877 was the phonograph, which could soon be found in thousands of
        American homes, where it basically sat until 1923, when the record was
        invented. But Edison's greatest achievement came in 1879 when he
        invented the electric company. Edison's design was a brilliant
        adaptation of the simple electrical circuit: the electric company
        sends electricity through a wire to a customer, then immediately gets
        the electricity back through another wire, then (this is the brilliant
        part) sends it right back to the customer again.

        This means that an electric company can sell a customer the same batch
        of electricity thousands of times a day and never get caught, since
        very few customers take the time to examine their electricity closely.
        In fact, the last year any new electricity was generated was 1937.

        Today, thanks to men like Edison and Franklin, and frogs like
        Galvani's, we receive almost unlimited benefits from electricity. For
        example, in the past decade scientists have developed the laser, an
        electronic appliance so powerful that it can vaporize a bulldozer 2000
        yards away, yet so precise that doctors can use it to perform delicate
        operations to the human eyeball, provided they remember to change the
        power setting from "Bulldozer" to "Eyeball."

        --Dave Barry

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 13 2016, @01:49AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 13 2016, @01:49AM (#401060)

      Sewage is usually the same as the amount of water you use. The assumption is that all the water coming out of the tap goes down the drain. That is one reason why cities with foundation drains connected to the sewage system, instead of a sump pump or storm system, will often pay residents to disconnect them. It is also why many states require water utilities to allow customers to separately meter irrigation systems and other water that cannot be sewage.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 13 2016, @07:38PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 13 2016, @07:38PM (#401454)

      All the weed growers want to know where you live :P

      Seriously, what power company doesn't meter? I'm metered for everything! Except sewage, but I think that's rolled into the water bill, not sure.

      I think it was just a mis-read. Re-read the original post: "If your electric bill is $90 for overhead and $5 for electricity why even bother metering in the first place?"

      Notice the use of the subjunctive. The way to read that sentence is, "If there were a hypothetical electricity distribution system which were to charge $90 for overhead and $5 for electricity, much like how the cost structure of the internet is (I assume), then they would likewise not bother to meter."