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posted by cmn32480 on Wednesday September 14 2016, @01:07PM   Printer-friendly
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Three of the four major candidates for United States president have responded to America's Top 20 Presidential Science, Engineering, Technology, Health and Environmental Questions. The nonprofit advocacy group ScienceDebate.org has posted their responses online. Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, and Jill Stein had all responded as of press time, and the group was awaiting responses from Libertarian Party candidate Gary Johnson.


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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2016, @04:55PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2016, @04:55PM (#401891)

    Hiillary always lies, even about ridiculous shit that doesn't matter like if she has a cold or the flu, she's just crazy. Like literally insane. That makes her a very scary candidate. If she wins can she be controlled?

    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/ [politifact.com]

    Trump is offering actual leadership,

    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/ [politifact.com]

    Hmmm...I'm sorry VLM, what was that you were saying?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2016, @05:07PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2016, @05:07PM (#401902)

    Complexity is for losers and liars!
    As we all know, any software over 20 lines long is really just a trick so that programmers can get paid more.

    Trump!
    Trump!
    Trump!

  • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2016, @05:14PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2016, @05:14PM (#401906)

    I think he means Trump will run the country like a business, tight control over spending and get rid of the fuckoffs. Cliton will just do business as usual, spend money that doesn't exist while filling the pockets of fat slobs that have never put in a hard days work, AKA politicians.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2016, @05:26PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2016, @05:26PM (#401916)

      Yeah, cuz facts are for suckers, amirite?

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by VLM on Wednesday September 14 2016, @05:36PM

      by VLM (445) on Wednesday September 14 2016, @05:36PM (#401920)

      BAU politics is 100% smiley happy face and you propose stuff by tossing out nebulous unachievable goals plus or minus content free sophistry. People generally hate it.

      Trump style leadership is business leadership. Business is at least 50% talking tough and threatening not just smiling. So Trump does his usual thing and people expecting a speech about skittles candy flying out of a unicorns butt get all confused and freaked. Businessmen propose stuff by tossing out the most ridiculous possible negotiation point they can imagine. Wait wait you're not supposed to specify how they're gonna pay for a border wall in detail with a valid budget, politicians are supposed to talk about how we're all citizens of earth and have to get along while protecting our borders from terrorism by leaving them wide open or some such literal doublespeak style nonsense.

      So imagine leader Hillary and leader Trump are in charge of a famous space rocket company who two failures ago had an outsourced liquid oxygen / helium tank support strut snap in midair leading to a rather impressive midair explosion.

      Now lets imagine the Hillary response. Well I have a detailed plan to fix the fuel tank strut weakness problem which includes increasing taxes to hire more FAA regulators, getting rid of all the white people in rocket science and encouraging more people of color to become rocket scientists because I hate white people and that message sells well to my segment of the electorate, I'm gonna make the strut 1/3 lighter and manufacture it completely out of organic hemp seed and natural soy oil, and finally we're going to take down the American flag at the assembly plant and replace with the communist party flag and/or the UN flag because everyone loves gloablism. All very specific and sound bite compatible and said with a smile and pretty much the kind of idiocy you'd expect from a politician.

      Now lets imagine the Trump response. OK as super-CEO I'm trying to prioritize this and I will try to squeeze a little more money from finance to tide us over the interval before next flight and I've talked to legal and I think we're OK and I'm going to keep a fire lit under the VP of engineering until they figure out what went wrong and how to fix it, or I'll fire the whole department top to bottom and hire new people who can figure it out. Meanwhile as a negotiation point how about I start with asking the failed strut mfgr for ... 100 billion dollars. Either that or I build a wall around their building. That seems a nice place to start negotiations. I mean, how does a dying legacy news media even report something business-like such as that?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2016, @06:38PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2016, @06:38PM (#401958)

        Paying for the border wall will be easy. Just tell pres Nieto all U.S. aid to mexico will be paying for the wall if they don't build it. And perhaps tax imports and close loopholes for businesses using mexico for manufacturing. It's not that hard to think of a solution.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2016, @07:29PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 14 2016, @07:29PM (#401978)

          Perhaps stop crap like this... Ford moving all production of small cars from U.S. to Mexico http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/09/14/ford-moving-all-production-small-cars-mexico/90354334/ [usatoday.com]

        • (Score: 2) by PocketSizeSUn on Wednesday September 14 2016, @08:28PM

          by PocketSizeSUn (5340) on Wednesday September 14 2016, @08:28PM (#401996)

          Why else was he was so upset after his meeting with Trump?

          Seems logical to me that you hit the nail on the head there.

        • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Thursday September 15 2016, @12:01AM

          by NotSanguine (285) <{NotSanguine} {at} {SoylentNews.Org}> on Thursday September 15 2016, @12:01AM (#402077) Homepage Journal

          Paying for the border wall will be easy. Just tell pres Nieto all U.S. aid to mexico will be paying for the wall if they don't build it. And perhaps tax imports and close loopholes for businesses using mexico for manufacturing. It's not that hard to think of a solution.

          Foreign aid to Mexico (US$417,000,000) [google.com] constitutes approximately .0003% of Mexico's GDP (US$1.144,330,000,000) [tradingeconomics.com]. What's more, given that according to Donald Trump, US$24,800,000,000 in remittances come to Mexico from the US [politifact.com] US Foreign aid to Mexico is ~1.6% of that.

          As such, I imagine that the Mexicans aren't all that dependent on US foreign aid.

          As for tariffs and taxes, starting a trade war with Mexico would be highly detrimental to the US (admittedly, not as much as to Mexico) and would face stiff opposition from a broad range of interests, not to mention that it would place upward impact on the prices of all manner of good sold in the US. According to the Congressional Research Service [fas.org]:

          U.S.-Mexico Trade
          The United States is, by far, Mexico’s leading partner in merchandise trade, while Mexico is the
          United States’ third-largest trade partner after China and Canada. Mexico ranks second among
          U.S. export markets after Canada, and is the third-leading supplier of U.S. imports. U.S. trade
          with Mexico increased rapidly since NAFTA entered into force in January 1994. U.S. exports to
          Mexico increased from $41.6 billion in 1993 (the year prior to NAFTA’s entry into force) to
          $240.3 billion in 2014, an increase of 478%. Imports from Mexico increased from $39.9 billion in
          1993 to $294.2 billion in 2014, an increase of 637% (see Figure 1). The merchandise trade
          balance with Mexico went from a surplus of $1.7 billion in 1993 to a widening deficit that
          reached a peak of $74.3 billion in 2007. In 2014, the merchandise trade deficit with Mexico was
          $53.8 billion. In services, the United States had a surplus of $12.1 billion in 2013. U.S. exports in
          services to Mexico totaled $29.9 billion in 2013, while U.S. imports totaled $17.8 billion.

          So that's not such a good idea either.

          That really sucks, doesn't it? I guess that makes me a huge asshole for ruining a perfectly good rant with facts. Shame on me!

          --
          No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2016, @04:33PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 15 2016, @04:33PM (#402355)

            I know one thing for sure... Since Ford is sending all of their car manufacturing to Mexico, putting more American workers out to pasture, it's going to piss off a lot of people. Plus... Even though Fords are already a pile of shit, they're going to be an even bigger pile of shit. Not to mention they'll probably use manure as seat filler.