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posted by martyb on Wednesday September 21 2016, @08:12AM   Printer-friendly
from the NOW-we-know-what-the-'Plus'-is dept.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/13/12890050/adblock-plus-now-sells-ads

A story at The Verge reveals the newest plan for the company behind Adblock Plus, they are entering the ad network business. In exchange for 20% of your revenue, you can get pre-approved ads that will show to users with acceptable ads enabled. While pitched as an easier alternative to the old process of getting ads approved, the ultimate goal is the same. Now, they will get a percentage of all acceptable ads though the program. The article points out that this is one big step closer to racketeering, as they are directly taking a 6% cut. Or, as the old gangsters would say, "would you rather pay me to keep 80% of something or keep 100% of nothing?"


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  • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 21 2016, @06:36PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 21 2016, @06:36PM (#404880)

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-4 32/64-bit https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=%22APK+Hosts+File+Engine%22+and+%22start64%22&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1 [google.com]

    Ads rob speed, security (malvertising) & privacy (tracking).

    Hosts add speed (hardcodes/adblocks), security (bad sites/poisoned dns), reliability (dns down), & anonymity (dns requestlogs/trackers) natively.

    Works vs. caps & PUSH ads.

    Avg. page = big as Doom http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/22/web_page_now_big_as_doom/ [theregister.co.uk] & ads = 40% of it.

    Hosts != ClarityRay blockable (vs. souled-out to admen inferior wasteful redundant slow usermode addons)

    Less power/cpu/ram + IO use vs. DNS/routers/addons/antivirus (slows you) + less security issues/complexity.

    Compliments firewalls (blocking less used IP addys vs. hosts blocking more used domains) & DNS (lightens dns load).

    Gets data via 10 security sites.

    APK

    P.S. - Safe https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/e01211ca36aa02e923f20adee0a3c4f5d5187dc65bdf1c997b3da3c2b0745425/analysis/1433430542/ [virustotal.com] (Verified by Malwarebytes' S. Burn "seen the code & it's safe" http://forum.hosts-file.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4290 [hosts-file.net] )

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 22 2016, @04:34PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 22 2016, @04:34PM (#405178)

    Oh no, APK has found Soylent News!

    Maybe it's time to develop an APK blocker ;-)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 22 2016, @07:39PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 22 2016, @07:39PM (#405244)

      /[APKapk]{3}/

      Nuke it from orbit, it is the only way to be sure.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 22 2016, @08:16PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 22 2016, @08:16PM (#405253)

      See subject: You can't validly technically disprove my points on hosts superiority to "AlmostAllAdsBlocked" - that's all anyone needs to see here along w/ the fact you tried down modding my post (only to have others upmod it again) in effete "retaliation"... there's NO DEFENSE for inferior tools YOU might use vs. hosts. None (& you KNOW it).

      APK

      P.S.=> I invite YOU to do better (but of course "your kind", off-topic trolls who are obviously advertisers or those profiting by them in webmasters, inferior competitors, or malware makers/botnet herders etc. - et al, just CAN'T)... apk

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 22 2016, @10:50PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 22 2016, @10:50PM (#405325)

        https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole [github.com] does that with less overhead and effort than parsing it on each machine, and it covers all devices on your network, even those you can't change the hosts file on.

        So, what did I win?

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23 2016, @12:17AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23 2016, @12:17AM (#405342)

          See subject: "poor imitation = sincerest form of flattery" & hosts migrate networkwide by admins/superusers easily.

          * Did YOU create that yourself? I'd say no, but let's hear what you have to say about that...

          APK

          P.S.=> That's not a full blown EASY TO USE GUI from what I saw of it (doesn't really say too much about it but the second I saw "bash", I guessed it was script only & it sounds like it's for Raspberry PI units only)... apk

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23 2016, @01:21AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23 2016, @01:21AM (#405371)

            LOL, you obviously didn't read what that is. It is a dnsmasq blacklist with a fancy looking PHP front end. Thanks to the beauty of DHCP, every machine on your network can be forced to use it and there is no need to maintain lists on each machine. You don't even need a Pi, as any machine can run it with proper packages. Plus, it can be set up to serve proper HTTP error codes, rather than having each blackholed address retried on the localhost. OH, you can also use wildcards in your directives, so when randomdomain239484895u.adserver.com pops up, you are automatically covered with no need to enumerate as with hosts files. Tech has moved on dinosaur, there is a reason why even ARPANET didn't use hosts for long.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23 2016, @01:33PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23 2016, @01:33PM (#405519)

              See subject: "Bolting on 'MoAr'" when in hosts natively does it vs. tons of non-native parts that can be taken down from a SINGLE location as yours can be.

              * Noobz like YOU run things like that, lol (millions worldwide use my program & hosts)!

              APK

              P.S.=> So much for your "hosts can't be migrated across a network" too - domain wide admins/superusers can do it easily from a central server... apk

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23 2016, @04:58PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23 2016, @04:58PM (#405615)

                And yet, your GUI is "Bolting on 'MoAr'" on top of hosts and allows central management from a central server, meaning it can be taken down from a SINGLE location. Plus, you have no solution for other things on your network, like tablets, phones and apps, the fastest growing segment of technology.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23 2016, @05:54PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23 2016, @05:54PM (#405636)

                  You don't NEED to keep my program resident (you DO all your bs) & hosts = far less moving parts complexity vs. your "so-called 'solution'" that's EASILY taken down from 1 point (hosts aren't, & exist @ endpoints too once centrally migrated by domain admins/superusers from a central server & MY PROGRAM HAS NO FLAWS IN ITS CODE TO DATE to floor it with (4++ yrs. now))!

                  You can run my program to gather hosts data to easily migrate to end points from ANYWHERE moron!

                  Additionally: Yes, your method has far more complexity in parts for bushwhacking it OR holes in its code too as well as more resource consumption due to more "Bolting on 'MoAr'" moving parts illogically as YOU suggest (lol).

                  * Took a look @dnsmasq rules format http://blogging.dragon.org.uk/howto-setup-dnsmasq-as-dns-dhcp/ [dragon.org.uk] too - THEY'RE FAR MORE COMPLEX than hosts easy to use/edit & UNDERSTAND format (your very config rules are your undoing in inefficiency & LACK OF EASE OF USE for end users who typically wouldn't understand it - hosts by comparison? EASY TO USE and EDIT, by far in comparison) - menial chumps like YOU? Make me LAUGH!

                  APK

                  P.S.=> YOU FAIL fool - so have your admins trying to "BLOCK" my posting when I am ON TOPIC with a working solution that's native & NOT adding on more stupidly (those blockings of me posting? LOL - Easily gotten around too - so attempts @ "Suppressing" me FLOORING YOU PUBLICLY? Ineffectual & EFFETE (like most of YOU here are, lol)) ... apk

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23 2016, @08:35PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 23 2016, @08:35PM (#405709)

                    address=/example.com/1.2.3.4

                    So much more complicated. Unless, you didn't actually read the page you linked to. And you didn't mention how your hosts file works with devices that aren't PCs. Or that your software can't handle wildcards, such as "address=/.example.com/1.2.3.4". Or the fact that admins can't use it to block threats in real time.

                    Also, if you really don't think your code has flaws, I'd recommend running it with http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/afl/ [coredump.cx] and I bet you'd be surprised what comes out the other end.