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posted by martyb on Friday September 30 2016, @12:09AM   Printer-friendly
from the easy-to-see-but-hard-to-reach dept.

While surveying natural limestone caves in the Galilee, scientists have discovered hundreds of limestone caves in which Jews hid when Roman troops came marching through 2,000 years ago, during the Great Jewish Revolt (66-70 CE).

Extensive embellishment such as baths and candle niches carved into the rock show that the caves had been prepared for extensive habitation.

Water cisterns carved into the rock, as well as pitchers, pottery shards, coins, and other artifacts dating to the 1st century C.E. were found in many of the cliff shelters, say Dr. Yinon Shivtiel from the Safed Academic College and Vladimir Boslove of the Israeli Cave Research Center. The work was funded by the Safed Academic College Research Foundation.

The cave entrances are pretty easy to spy, for a hiding place...


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by bob_super on Friday September 30 2016, @12:25AM

    by bob_super (1357) on Friday September 30 2016, @12:25AM (#408178)

    > The cave entrances are pretty easy to spy, for a hiding place...

    Indeed. And more than one teen has lost their virginity in there over the last few decades I'm sure.

    But someone with quite an agenda needs to trumpet out loud any proof the Eternal Jewishness of that land...

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 30 2016, @01:26AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 30 2016, @01:26AM (#408195)
  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by jelizondo on Friday September 30 2016, @04:35AM

    by jelizondo (653) Subscriber Badge on Friday September 30 2016, @04:35AM (#408242) Journal

    Indeed.

    Even the scholars of the Torah acknowledge that the land was previously inhabited and was therefore to be taken by force. A couple of light reads:

    And the Romans threw them out of Jerusalem and surrounding areas at around 70 C.E., so they really need to make sure they prove they were there from the earliest times to the present to justify their claim over land that is not properly theirs.

    Note that I'm not anti-Jewish, simply anti-stupid. Except for some lands in Canada given back to the Inuit, we have occupied lands previously owned by the first peoples in America (I mean the whole continent) and we have no plans whatsoever to give their descendants the land back and go back to Europe or wherever our ancestors came from. If the Jews have just claim to their ancestral land, then so do the first peoples in America (the continent) and there is logical contradiction holding one case to be true and the other, exactly the same, to be false.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by DutchUncle on Friday September 30 2016, @02:45PM

      by DutchUncle (5370) on Friday September 30 2016, @02:45PM (#408392)

      It doesn't take any scholarship; just read the Old Testament and it says very clearly that the land was already inhabited. After the exodus from Egypt, heading in the right direction, scouts were afraid of the inhabitants, which is why they went for a 40-year "basic training march" in the wrong direction.

    • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Friday September 30 2016, @07:13PM

      by jdavidb (5690) on Friday September 30 2016, @07:13PM (#408506) Homepage Journal

      Dr. Walter Block has some very interesting writings on just reparations [walterblock.com] for property taken generations ago. Basically property should be returned to just owners, but the burden of proof gets more and more difficult as time goes by. Kind of a natural statute of limitations.

      Looks like he has also given a lecture [mises.org] on the subject.

      His writings were about slaves in America of African origins but I would think it would also apply to the question of the middle east. Block is Jewish but atheist; I don't think he had in mind addressing the question of Jewish ownership of Palestine, but I could be wrong. For what it's worth his mentor Murray Rothbard, also Jewish and atheist, thought that it would be best for Jews to just establish a new homeland in America.

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