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posted by martyb on Sunday October 02 2016, @09:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the we-need-more-hermaphrodites dept.

Twitch boss Matthew DiPietro is clear that the industry needs to do more about online sexism in gaming.

The senior executive was speaking to us from the streaming site's headquarters in San Francisco.

Gamers have told Newsbeat about their experiences and Twitch says it's doing all it can to stamp out sexism on the platform.

But Matthew tells us this isn't a problem that Twitch can solve on its own.

He says the industry needs to invest money to "move forward on this issue".

He's calling for "investment in terms of people, education and money.


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  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Monday October 03 2016, @12:21PM

    by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 03 2016, @12:21PM (#409367)

    Not necessarily true.

    For example I caught my SiL playing Farmville. Not seven years ago, but just a couple months ago when we visited her house and she had to harvest someones zucchini or WTF while the easter brunch cooked in the (real world) oven. Consider the financials. They can monetize by selling ads for Miracle Grow and maybe decorative flower pots. They can empire build (which is often just as important to management) by getting big name gardeners for voices like that landscaper dude from "ask this old house" or whatever people watch that involves plants. I mean, whats the whole ecosystem of girl farm games worth, like a million bucks?

    Now consider a boy game like dumb WWII FPS sequel number 3412 or wanna be gangster simulator number 8907. They don't seem to have much trouble selling something subjectively worth like $5 for $60+ to armies of boy gamers. The makers can empire build by dumping millions into celebrity voice actors.

    So one market is maybe 1000 times larger than the other market. Now lets say 1% of the larger market has some antisocial personality disorders and calls all the members of the little market the C word and they all run away crying to their safe space and never plant a tamagotchi virtual radish again.

    (First of all, those girlies have already self selected to be the toughest and most competitive girlies out there, so "real gamer girls" will just castrate or virtually castrate the mentally ill boys. The only girls running for the hills crying will be the ones running in front of pre-positioned and rehearsed camera positions and pre-positioned white knights while reciting prepared political slogans)

    (Secondly, how do misbehaving boys playing gangster simulators find a way to offend girls playing farmville? How do they even get to the point of saying "Hey baby, nice zucchini but mines bigger?")

    Yes, theoretically, if you could muzzle the 1% of the thousand time larger market, the total market size would be bigger.

    In practice if you kick out the mentally ill, the total market shrinks by 1/100th (the mentally ill boys fraction), and if you let them stay, the total market shrinks by 1/1000th (the girls fraction). Obviously letting them stay is a better long term investment.

    You can also toss out a theoretical argument similar to the pr0n argument that unless you're talking "Final Solution" efforts, suppressing behavior merely results in it appearing elsewhere. So on a cultural scale, it might be optimum for the small fraction of socially disabled boys to play video games in a very anti-woman manner instead of having anti-woman behavior surface at bars or in the workplace or in casual relationships. Get it out of their systems in a safe manner to grease the wheels of society elsewhere.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 03 2016, @06:53PM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 03 2016, @06:53PM (#409576) Journal

    I mean, whats the whole ecosystem of girl farm games worth, like a million bucks?

    Farmville was huge. On revenue from Farmville and then later games in the same vein, Zygna grew over less than ten years into a company currently valued at a bit shy of two billion dollars.

    Anyone who depends on customers who are sensitive to misogyny and whatnot already has terms of service, moderators, etc to preserve the necessary atmosphere in forums and like.