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posted by martyb on Tuesday October 04 2016, @08:46AM   Printer-friendly
from the how-does-it-work? dept.

Ohio will adopt a new (classic) execution protocol and resume executions on Jan. 12, 2017:

The state of Ohio plans to resume executions in 2017 with a new three-drug combination. The state will use the drugs midazolam, rocuronium bromide and potassium chloride. To make the switch the state is expected to adopt [a] new execution protocol by the end of the week. The state hasn't executed anyone since January 2014.

The new drug mix is really a return to one the state used for 10 years. "The department used a similar combination from 1999 to 2009, and last year, the Supreme Court of the United States upheld the use of this specific three-drug combination," said JoEllen Smith, a spokeswoman for the Department of Rehabilitation and Correction.

Ohio has had trouble getting drugs to use for lethal injections in part because pharmaceutical companies don't want their medical products used for killing people. Two years ago European pharmaceutical companies blocked further sales on moral and legal grounds. Ohio has looked for other options, but all have obstacles.

For background, Wikipedia offers: Midazolam, rocuronium bromide, and potassium chloride.


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Farkus888 on Tuesday October 04 2016, @10:32AM

    by Farkus888 (5159) on Tuesday October 04 2016, @10:32AM (#409921)

    As I already stated in this thread... Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." The words of Jesus himself. As an obvious apologist, I hope you aren't wearing mixed fibers.

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  • (Score: 2) by MadTinfoilHatter on Tuesday October 04 2016, @12:23PM

    by MadTinfoilHatter (4635) on Tuesday October 04 2016, @12:23PM (#409951)

    And this in turn illustrates the point I made about not prying a verse out of context and single-mindedly hammer that. This is true even if it's something Jesus himself said. Since you seem to have taken a liking for Matthew, let's look at another passage from there:

    At that time Jesus went through the grain fields on the sabbath day. And His disciples were hungry, and began to pluck the heads of grain and to eat. But when the Pharisees saw, they said to Him, Behold, your disciples do that which it is not lawful to do on the sabbath day. But He said to them, Have you not read what David did when he was hungry, and those who were with him, how he entered into the house of God and ate the showbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, nor for those who were with him, but only for the priests? Or have you not read in the Law that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath and are blameless? But I say to you that One greater than the temple is in this place. But if you had known what this is, "I desire mercy and not sacrifice," you would not have condemned those who are not guilty.

    (Matt. 12:1-7)

    Here we also have Jesus speaking, and through the same gospel author, no less - and it clearly seems to contradict your rigid interpretation of 5:18, (which is not the same thing as contradicting itself). Someone reading the Scriptures in order to find out what they mean, lets Scripture interpret Scripture (and this hermeneutic principle extends for beyond the Bible, BTW). Of course if you're only reading to find a reason to reject it, you will - a principle that also extends far beyond the Bible.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @12:32PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @12:32PM (#409956)

      If you constantly have to do all these 'It's just metaphorical!' and 'You're taking it too literally!' mental gymnastics for passages in the bible that you don't like, maybe the bible is, at best. indecipherable garbage. Have you considered that possibility? There are countless denominations of Christianity, and many rigidly interpret certain passages that others do not. What this indicates is that what is meant to be metaphorical and what isn't is hardly obvious, so I can't believe you can play these dishonest interpretation games with a straight face.

      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday October 04 2016, @03:04PM

        by tangomargarine (667) on Tuesday October 04 2016, @03:04PM (#410021)

        So if it's not blindingly obvious, such that nobody can ever interpret it two different ways, it's all crap and pointless? Gee thanks.

        You show me a book and I'll show you metaphors in it.

        --
        "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @06:54PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @06:54PM (#410200)

          So if it's not blindingly obvious, such that nobody can ever interpret it two different ways, it's all crap and pointless? Gee thanks.

          The problem is that the bible seems to contain a lot of barbaric and contradictory verses, which are then dishonestly disregarded by its proponents who scream things such as 'Metaphor!' even when there is no evidence that that's actually the case. I have to wonder what the point of the bible is if each Christian is just going to concoct their own fantasies about what the bible says, which often conveniently seem to confirm their existing worldview? They may as well just write their own fairy tale book.

          You show me a book and I'll show you metaphors in it.

          The problem isn't that there are metaphors, and your attempt to portray my comment this way is disingenuous. The problem is that the bible's proponents seem to deflect all criticism by claiming there are metaphors and such where none appear to exist. If the bible is a book with any truth value whatsoever, and if it was indeed inspired by the word of god, god utterly failed to communicate his message. If you're going to have rules, you have to make them clear. Thankfully our laws are not written as poorly as the bible.

          • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday October 04 2016, @07:47PM

            by tangomargarine (667) on Tuesday October 04 2016, @07:47PM (#410248)

            It's a 2000-year-old religion. *You* try being around that long and unambiguous, skippy.

            --
            "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @09:32PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @09:32PM (#410343)

          It is supposed to be the word of god. Whilst communicating clearly to everyone might be difficult for a mortal author, it should be trivial for an omnipotent deity.

          If the Bible isn't the word of god, where is its value?