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posted by martyb on Tuesday October 04 2016, @08:46AM   Printer-friendly
from the how-does-it-work? dept.

Ohio will adopt a new (classic) execution protocol and resume executions on Jan. 12, 2017:

The state of Ohio plans to resume executions in 2017 with a new three-drug combination. The state will use the drugs midazolam, rocuronium bromide and potassium chloride. To make the switch the state is expected to adopt [a] new execution protocol by the end of the week. The state hasn't executed anyone since January 2014.

The new drug mix is really a return to one the state used for 10 years. "The department used a similar combination from 1999 to 2009, and last year, the Supreme Court of the United States upheld the use of this specific three-drug combination," said JoEllen Smith, a spokeswoman for the Department of Rehabilitation and Correction.

Ohio has had trouble getting drugs to use for lethal injections in part because pharmaceutical companies don't want their medical products used for killing people. Two years ago European pharmaceutical companies blocked further sales on moral and legal grounds. Ohio has looked for other options, but all have obstacles.

For background, Wikipedia offers: Midazolam, rocuronium bromide, and potassium chloride.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @11:12AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @11:12AM (#409929)

    Not painful enough.

  • (Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Tuesday October 04 2016, @11:45AM

    by wonkey_monkey (279) on Tuesday October 04 2016, @11:45AM (#409941) Homepage

    Then why kill them at all? Why not torture them for the rest of their days?

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Oakenshield on Tuesday October 04 2016, @12:06PM

      by Oakenshield (4900) on Tuesday October 04 2016, @12:06PM (#409948)

      Then why kill them at all? Why not torture them for the rest of their days?

      I believe that there is a specific admonition in the Constitution that forbids that. I know it's not fashionable these days to adhere to the Constitution when it goes against your personal wishes, but some of us still would like it upheld. All of it.

      • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Tuesday October 04 2016, @02:47PM

        by Thexalon (636) on Tuesday October 04 2016, @02:47PM (#410012)

        And here I am stuck trying to figure out why killing somebody doesn't typically fall under the definition of "cruel" in the US.

        I do think, if we're going to kill people, we should be doing something more like a public execution by guillotine or firing squad or something complete with angry mob. This idea of hiding away what we're doing in the bowels of some prison with non-medical people dressed up in white coats trying to pretend they're doctors and trying to pretend this is some sort of clean medical procedure is propaganda trying to convince people that it is possible to kill somebody without being brutal.

        An alternate solution to this problem, if we really want to give someone an injection that will kill them: Heroine. It's not like there's a shortage of it in Ohio, and we just have those on death row get as high as a kite until they overdose and die.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @04:09PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @04:09PM (#410054)

          Its really not that easy to die from a heroin overdose. Believe me, I've tried. Now fentanyl, the adulterant in heroin thats killing people, thats another story.

        • (Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @05:07PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @05:07PM (#410083)

          if we really want to give someone an injection that will kill them: Heroine.

          Which heroine would you like to use? I'd vote for Wonder Woman. But I want to do the injecting myself. My wife would be glad to do the killing afterwards for free when she found out.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 06 2016, @02:42AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 06 2016, @02:42AM (#410926)

          It's "cruel and unusual punishment" that's forbidden. The "and" is key. It's OK to punish people cruelly, so long as you do it in a commonly practised way.

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday October 04 2016, @03:19PM

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Tuesday October 04 2016, @03:19PM (#410030) Journal

        Prediction: Hillary Clinton will win the Presidency and pack the Supreme Court with liberal justices. Then, years down the line, a death penalty case will be heard, and the death penalty itself will be ruled "cruel and unusual punishment". Heck, this could happen with very little change in composition of the court.

        Amendment process aside, the interpretation of the Constitution was meant to change with the times. Just as we have expanded the Fourth Amendment to cover electronic communications, we could see the abolition of the death penalty based on shifting public opinion (that it is unusual to use a punishment that is subject to expensive appeals, requires someone to kill, oversee a killing, or supply to make a killing possible, and ends the lives of the falsely convicted).

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @07:12PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @07:12PM (#410221)

          Prediction: Hillary Clinton will win the Presidency and pack the Supreme Court with liberal justices.

          Why would a center right, corporate-controlled, authoritarian politician pack the Supreme Court with liberal judges?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @08:15PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @08:15PM (#410279)

            How else you gonna scare people into voting for Trump? You can't do it using facts.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @09:25PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 04 2016, @09:25PM (#410340)

          I really wish you Hillary astroturfers would stop lying to get me to consider voting for her.

          • (Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday October 04 2016, @09:53PM

            by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Tuesday October 04 2016, @09:53PM (#410362) Journal

            It's not a lie. She will clearly put liberals on the Supreme Court while Donald would put in conservatives. Maybe some of those liberals would be somewhat centrist like the recent Obama pick, but they are going to lean liberal on a lot of social issues.

            Whichever candidate you want to vote for should probably be based on how you want the Supreme Court to look in 4-8 years. It is my opinion that the Supreme Court picks will be the biggest and most important thing differentiating the two candidates (rather than their effect on the economy or their foreign policy).

            If you don't believe me on this, that's too bad. Also, I won't be voting for Hillary or Donald in November.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 06 2016, @02:46AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 06 2016, @02:46AM (#410927)

            I tried 'turfing for Trump, but he stiffed me. So now I'm with Hillary. At least she pays.