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posted by martyb on Monday October 10 2016, @01:26AM   Printer-friendly
from the fun-with-numbers dept.

Since the launch of SoylentNews in February of 2014, there have been 274,870 comment moderations made against the 412,100 comments that our community has posted to our site. Who has posted the most comments? Who garnered the most up-moderations? The most down-moderations?

Such simple questions, but they led to a fun bit of DB querying. The results surprised me, and I thought others might be interested, as well. Most surprising to me was the assessment of comments from Anonymous Cowards.

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Who received the most moderations?

For better or worse, to whom did Soylentils direct their greatest moderation effort?

NICK UID TOTAL DOWN UP NET
The Mighty Buzzard 18 2260 626 1634 1008
takyon 881 2315 103 2212 2109
aristarchus 2645 2494 615 1879 1264
c0lo 156 2717 183 2534 2351
Thexalon 636 3225 83 3142 3059
Ethanol-fueled 2792 3447 1238 2209 971
VLM 445 4401 346 4055 3709
Runaway1956 2926 4531 992 3539 2547
frojack 1554 5855 593 5262 4669
Anonymous Coward 1 78936 13002 65934 52932

The single greatest target of moderation was the "Anonymous Coward" with 78,936 moderations. This was followed by frojack, Runaway1956, VLM, Ethanol-fueled, and Thexalon who garnered over 3000 moderations each.

Who had the most down-moderations?

Here, only the number of down moderations was considered — it mattered not whether it was Flamebait or Troll — they all counted the same.

NICK UID TOTAL DOWN UP NET
VLM 445 4401 346 4055 3709
Hairyfeet 75 1620 387 1233 846
MichaelDavidCrawford 2339 1513 387 1126 739
frojack 1554 5855 593 5262 4669
aristarchus 2645 2494 615 1879 1264
The Mighty Buzzard 18 2260 626 1634 1008
jmorris 4844 2144 753 1391 638
Runaway1956 2926 4531 992 3539 2547
Ethanol-fueled 2792 3447 1238 2209 971
Anonymous Coward 1 78936 13002 65934 52932

Once again, our prolific AC topped the list with 13,002 down-mods. Ethanol-fueled was the only other user who topped 1000 down-mods, coming in with 1238. Runaway1956 made a valiant showing with 992 down-mods.

Who had the most up-moderations?

In the eyes of the community, who most often received an up-mod? Again, no consideration was given for the nature of the up-mod — Insightful, Interesting, or Informative — all were considered the same.

NICK UID TOTAL DOWN UP NET
aristarchus 2645 2494 615 1879 1264
Phoenix666 552 2184 80 2104 2024
Ethanol-fueled 2792 3447 1238 2209 971
takyon 881 2315 103 2212 2109
c0lo 156 2717 183 2534 2351
Thexalon 636 3225 83 3142 3059
Runaway1956 2926 4531 992 3539 2547
VLM 445 4401 346 4055 3709
frojack 1554 5855 593 5262 4669
Anonymous Coward 1 78936 13002 65934 52932

Once again AC reins supreme with 65,934 up-mods. This was followed by frojack with 5,262 and VLM with just over 4000.

Who had the highest net-moderation?

Putting it all together — subtracting the number of down-mods from the number of up-mods — who had the highest net moderation on our site?

NICK UID TOTAL DOWN UP NET
wonkey_monkey 279 1754 117 1637 1520
maxwell demon 1608 1786 55 1731 1676
Phoenix666 552 2184 80 2104 2024
takyon 881 2315 103 2212 2109
c0lo 156 2717 183 2534 2351
Runaway1956 2926 4531 992 3539 2547
Thexalon 636 3225 83 3142 3059
VLM 445 4401 346 4055 3709
frojack 1554 5855 593 5262 4669
Anonymous Coward 1 78936 13002 65934 52932

Once again, the shy but prolific AC tops the list with a net of 52,932 mod points. Only one other Soylentil was able to surpass 4000: frojack with 4,669. Two other Soylentils exceeded 3000: VLM with 3709 and Thexalon with 3059.

Who hath pointy horns?

Who managed to acquire the most down-mods as a percentage of all moderations on their comments? For a tie, number of moderated comments is the second sort field. Who is the devil in our midst?

NICK UID TOTAL #DOWN %DOWN #UP %UP NET
scarboni888 5061 1 1 100.00 0 0.00 -1
MooCow 6048 1 1 100.00 0 0.00 -1
cybergimli 436 2 2 100.00 0 0.00 -2
rancidman 769 2 2 100.00 0 0.00 -2
rmdingler 1038 2 2 100.00 0 0.00 -2
SoylentsISay 1331 2 2 100.00 0 0.00 -2
stupid 2631 2 2 100.00 0 0.00 -2
contrapunctus 3495 2 2 100.00 0 0.00 -2
killal -9 bash 2751 5 5 100.00 0 0.00 -5

Pfft, just a few minor imps around here. killal -9 bash topped (bottomed?) the list with 5 down-mods out of 5 moderations.

Who earned a Halo?

Whose comments had the best percentage of up-mods to total-mods? And in the case of ties, received the most up-mods? Who are the angels among us?

NICK UID TOTAL #DOWN %DOWN #UP %UP NET
dx3bydt3 82 69 0 0.00 69 100.00 69
romlok 1241 70 0 0.00 70 100.00 70
Hawkwind 3531 75 0 0.00 75 100.00 75
jdccdevel 1329 78 0 0.00 78 100.00 78
rleigh 4887 102 0 0.00 102 100.00 102
DrMag 1860 103 0 0.00 103 100.00 103
SrLnclt 1473 117 0 0.00 117 100.00 117
Joe 2583 126 0 0.00 126 100.00 126
Aiwendil 531 164 0 0.00 164 100.00 164

Here, it appears we've got a flock of angels, or at least people who know which way the wind blows. All folks listed here scored 100.00% meaning all of their moderations were up-mods. Aiwendil topped our list with 164, and we had 4 others — Joe, SrLnclt, DrMag, and rleigh — who each had over 100 such comment moderations... not even a single down-mod among them!

I must admit I was surprised to see the sheer number of positive moderations of AC comments, and the fact that 83.5% of those mods were positive.

[Update: Added two tables, one each for top percentage of down-mods and of up-mods. -Ed.]

 
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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10 2016, @02:17AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10 2016, @02:17AM (#412265)

    Adding-

    Especially in today's climate, there are certain unpopular opinions (you know who you are) that get blasted regardless of any validity they might have.

    Ending ACs is essentially tyranny of the majority, and I pleased there are venues available to express unpopular ideas.

    Hell, the site might be better if it were completely anonymous.

    Starting Score:    0  points
    Moderation   +2  
       Insightful=1, Interesting=1, Total=2
    Extra 'Interesting' Modifier   0  

    Total Score:   2  
  • (Score: 2) by frojack on Monday October 10 2016, @08:59AM

    by frojack (1554) on Monday October 10 2016, @08:59AM (#412359) Journal

    Ending ACs is essentially tyranny of the majority, and I pleased there are venues available to express unpopular ideas.

    That's a specious argument. And I'm pretty sure you know that.

    It is not required to provide a national id card and photo id to sign up with a totally made up name.
    And even an unpopular idea can be well presented, without risk of it wrecking your career when using a pen-name.

    But refusing to be responsible in any way for your postings just makes you a bomb thrower, a wall tagger who won't even sign his monograph, someone who wants his say, but no blowback.

    This AC ruse has never been to preserve anonymity, and never been about unpopular ideas. Its always been about reserving the right to judge, while cowering from judgement. If there is tyranny afoot, its the AC.

    Its rendered that green site virtually unreadable. Its slowly doing the same here.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10 2016, @10:32AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10 2016, @10:32AM (#412367)

      Really?

      No one has perfect control over what they reveal and considering how many people have been doxxed with pseudonyms, perhaps your reality field could use some calibration. As the saying goes- the internet is forever, and several people using social media have come up against this unfortunate fact. I'd rather not.

      Also, I'm under no obligation to fashion a well presented unpopular idea. Do you work under the same constraints? Then fuck off.

      But refusing to be responsible in any way for your postings just makes you a bomb thrower...

      Says the gentleman among the most down-voted. Hypocrisy much?

      And in that, what difference does it make if it is you or AC making the comment, speaking of specious arguments?

      Anonymity serves the the same purpose as it did when the Federalist Papers were published: to keep the raging mob from your door and to consider the argument, not the person.

      Anonymity has always been an aspect of free speech, and you are too naive to consider some people may not be living in countries with as expansive free speech protections as the US.

      By the way, you think Snowden will ever get to visit his motherland again?

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10 2016, @06:36PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10 2016, @06:36PM (#412570)

        No one has perfect control over what they reveal and considering how many people have been doxxed with pseudonyms

        People get doxxed mostly because they're Facebook-using suckers and give away their real information elsewhere and use the same pseudonyms in various locations. Only rarely is it anything more complex than that.

      • (Score: 2) by frojack on Monday October 10 2016, @10:15PM

        by frojack (1554) on Monday October 10 2016, @10:15PM (#412668) Journal

        Says the gentleman among the most down-voted. Hypocrisy much?

        I think you meant to say, most UP voted. Oh, wait, you didn't because you are an AC, and only throw insults.

        And in that, what difference does it make if it is you or AC making the comment, speaking of specious arguments?

        Makes a lot of difference. Some I pointed out. Some other are obvious. You can't carry on discourse with random voices in the wind who throws a bomb into a crowded room and runs away blameless.

        Anonymity serves the the same purpose as it did when the Federalist Papers were published: to keep the raging mob from your door and to consider the argument, not the person.

        The federalist papers were not anonymous. Even in that day it was widely know who two of the authors were.

        "Hamilton, Madison, and Jay did not invoke the pseudonym Publius in order to hide as individuals from being credited with authorship, in order to help their tenure chances, or in order to avoid embarrassment at the Thanksgiving dinner table.

        "Rather, their reason was precisely to the contrary: to share authorship, and indeed credit, with all the Framers of the Constitution."

        (Wendy Long, author an Law Clerk to Clarence Thomas.).

        I've read Publius. He is friends of mine. You sir, are no Publius.

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        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10 2016, @11:15PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10 2016, @11:15PM (#412697)

          "At the time of publication the authorship of the articles was a closely guarded secret, though astute observers discerned the identities of Hamilton, Madison, and Jay. Following Hamilton's death in 1804, a list that he had drafted claiming fully two-thirds of the papers for himself became public, including some that seemed more likely the work of Madison (No. 49–58 and 62–63). The scholarly detective work of Douglass Adair in 1944 postulated the following assignments of authorship, corroborated in 1964 by a computer analysis of the text."

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Federalist_Papers [wikipedia.org]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10 2016, @10:39AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10 2016, @10:39AM (#412370)

      This AC ruse has never been to preserve anonymity, and never been about unpopular ideas. Its always been about reserving the right to judge, while cowering from judgement. If there is tyranny afoot, its the AC.

      How do you see this opinion of yours squaring with the statistics for moderation on AC posts listed in the article? It seems that AC posters are moderated positively with a ~6:1 ratio. (Granted, it may also be useful to see moderations as a percentage in relation to total number of user posts.)

      For the record, I post AC out of laziness and the belief that an idea should be able to stand out on its own merits (and often making use of linked supporting evidence). My account was becoming fairly useless as I could see it starting to clog with the same topic, centered around replies to multitudes of authoritarians with pointed questions designed to provoke the reader into entertaining the idea that US government has limits to its authority and also what those exact limits are.) I also find being AC quite useful in limiting the scope of a discussion, as some past discussions get sidetracked by unrelated tangents in my post history. "Baffle 'em with bullcrap" is still a time-honored evasive approach and not one conducive to weighing the merits of original assertions.

      • (Score: 2) by frojack on Monday October 10 2016, @10:18PM

        by frojack (1554) on Monday October 10 2016, @10:18PM (#412671) Journal

        How do you see this opinion of yours squaring with the statistics for moderation on AC posts listed in the article?

        Sheer volume.
        How is that so hard to fathom?

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        • (Score: 2) by frojack on Monday October 10 2016, @10:29PM

          by frojack (1554) on Monday October 10 2016, @10:29PM (#412680) Journal

          I also find being AC quite useful in limiting the scope of a discussion, as some past discussions get sidetracked.

          Exactly.
          Once you've had YOUR say, the discussion should be over, right?

          I refer you to to my previous statement: If there is tyranny afoot, its the AC.

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        • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Tuesday October 11 2016, @05:30AM

          by Reziac (2489) on Tuesday October 11 2016, @05:30AM (#412823) Homepage

          Perhaps 'sheer volume' indicates a need. I would be very sorry to see AC go away. I rarely use it, but when I do, it's because the alternative is to not post at all (having judged the risk too high).

          As to the quality of discourse, it's good enough. Evidence: We're still here.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 11 2016, @07:59AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 11 2016, @07:59AM (#412847)

          How do you see this opinion of yours squaring with the statistics for moderation on AC posts listed in the article? It seems that AC posters are moderated positively with a ~6:1 ratio

          "Sheer volume" of bomb-throwing cowards would generally produce a net negative moderation total. With 6 positive moderations for every negative, it seems on the surface that your assertion is in error.

          We make a loss on every unit, but we'll make it up through volume!