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posted by janrinok on Monday October 10 2016, @04:37PM   Printer-friendly
from the if-only... dept.

There is an interview with Joel Spolsky on GeekWire which reports that companies should Just shut up and let your devs concentrate:

If you want to attract and keep developers, don't emphasize ping-pong tables, lounges, fire pits and chocolate fountains. Give them private offices or let them work from home, because uninterrupted time to concentrate is the most important and scarcest commodity.

That's the view of Joel Spolsky, CEO of Stack Overflow, a popular Q&A site for programmers, who spoke this morning at the GeekWire Summit in Seattle.

"Facebook's campus in Silicon Valley is an 8-acre open room, and Facebook was very pleased with itself for building what it thought was this amazing place for developers," Spolsky said in an interview with GeekWire co-founder Todd Bishop. "But developers don't want to overhear conversations. That's ideal for a trading floor, but developers need to concentrate, to go to a chatroom and ask questions and get the answers later. Facebook is paying 40-50 percent more than other places, which is usually a sign developers don't want to work there."

[Continues...]

Spolsky, who in 2011 created project-management software Trello, said the "Joel Test" that he created 16 years ago is still a valid way for developers to evaluate prospective employers. It's a list of 12 yes-no questions, with one point given for every "yes" answer:

  1. Do you use source control?
  2. Can you make a build in one step?
  3. Do you make daily builds?
  4. Do you have a bug database?
  5. Do you fix bugs before writing new code?
  6. Do you have an up-to-date schedule?
  7. Do you have a spec?
  8. Do programmers have quiet working conditions?
  9. Do you use the best tools money can buy?
  10. Do you have testers?
  11. Do new candidates write code during their interview?
  12. Do you do hallway usability testing?

"The truth is that most software organizations are running with a score of 2 or 3, and they need serious help, because companies like Microsoft run at 12 full-time," Spolsky said when he created the test. He said that remains true today.

How well does your organization support its developers? If new or better equipment would improve your productivity, is it made available to you? How is your work environment? How well does your organization score on the 12-point "Joel Test"? What is the biggest thing blocking your company from improving?


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  • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday October 11 2016, @01:28AM

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday October 11 2016, @01:28AM (#412740) Homepage Journal

    Yup, that is why I said erase the whiteboard or walk out with the paper. Really though, you're not going to get quality code if the person writing it has no idea about the preferred styles for the project, what libraries they can make use of, what constants mean what, and the like. You can get a very simple and generic function/method/etc... that's about it.

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  • (Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Tuesday October 11 2016, @04:52AM

    by q.kontinuum (532) on Tuesday October 11 2016, @04:52AM (#412814) Journal

    That's why I usually ask for a very simple function only, which shouldn't require any external library. Amazingly, 90% of the candidates are still not capable to provide it. The whole idea was initially to have a discussion on how to test, identity corner cases etc. External libraries - good if you know them, but most bigger projects have their own set of helper functions etc. which the candidate cannot know anyway, and for generic libraries there is always is duckduckgo and alike to look up what you need when you need it.

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