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posted by takyon on Friday October 21 2016, @08:26PM   Printer-friendly
from the breaking-the-net dept.

I just tried to access my Paypal account, and apparently it is down.

Companies including Twitter, Netflix, PayPal and eBay appeared to have their websites broken. And other services like PlayStation Network appeared to be hit by a major outage:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/netflix-twitter-internet-down-not-working-broken-paypal-ebay-facebook-instagram-a7374506.html

Update: Internet service appears to stablize after waves of cyber attacks


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  • (Score: 2) by Geotti on Friday October 21 2016, @08:37PM

    by Geotti (1146) on Friday October 21 2016, @08:37PM (#417408) Journal

    I bet "strong evidence" will point to Russia again...

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by forkazoo on Friday October 21 2016, @09:49PM

    by forkazoo (2561) on Friday October 21 2016, @09:49PM (#417439)

    It's certainly not impossible that Russia is involved (or at least will be blamed), and the timing right after the US was preparing a proportional response is interesting. That said, what's Russia's motive to attack US DNS for some sites? I don't think anybody has really sorted out the true target, so it's hard to really talk about apparent motive yet. It'll be a bit different if it was a protection racket against Dyn rather than for example using Dyn as an attack vector against Pay Pal.

  • (Score: 1, Troll) by Gaaark on Friday October 21 2016, @10:49PM

    by Gaaark (41) on Friday October 21 2016, @10:49PM (#417454) Journal

    "Let's blame it on the: RussianChineseNorthKoreansWhoEverTheAmericans/HillaryWantToPinItOnMaybeEvenTheDonaldSittingFatlyOnHisCouchWhileEvillyStrokingSomePussySomewhereYeahProbablyLetsBlameItOnTheDonaldAndHisPussy"

    (Hillary in talks with the FBI/NSA about who to blame (and then immediately forgets the conversation EVAH happened).)

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday October 21 2016, @11:29PM

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday October 21 2016, @11:29PM (#417460) Homepage

      Snowden warned about that exact same thing a year or two ago, that the NSA's power could be used to impersonate a foreign power (aka false-flag attack) and lead to war.

      Russia knows that the people are pissed off at their government and other elites, so it wouldn't try to go after services which hurt the people themselves. The whole embarrassment of Hillary thing or Snowden being a Russian operation is plausible, but attacking civilian internet infrastructure is not -- Russia wants the American people to know what's going on in the world. The American government are the ones who want to keep their own people in the dark, especially ever since they lost the war of public opinion during the Vietnam War era. The powers that be, in allowing the common man internet access, overestimated the internet as a means of control and underestimated the internet as a means of awakening.

      Snowden, patriot or spy, warned that the NSA infrastructure was a "turnkey surveillance state." What you just witnessed was the final test of its effectiveness.

      • (Score: 1, Troll) by gnuman on Saturday October 22 2016, @12:58AM

        by gnuman (5013) on Saturday October 22 2016, @12:58AM (#417482)

        people are pissed off at their government and other elites

        Except there is no elites. It's just another name for scapegoats because it is not so good to pick on blacks, Jews, disabled, or gay these days. So whoever invented "elites" just taps into the same bullshit.

        Being pissed off and throwing revolutions has worked out very well in other parts of the world. Just see Libya and Syria as prime examples. Only peaceful transitions of power and fuckton of hard work have ever managed to improve things for the regular Joe. But these also requires these Joes to actually *think* about policies they stand behind instead of just "being pissed" and go along with whoever has "answers that feel right".

        Who I really blame for this bullshit are the politicians. They make people pissed on purpose to gain votes. People are too stupid to see through this so they are led along like cows by their noses.

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday October 22 2016, @01:09AM

          by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday October 22 2016, @01:09AM (#417485) Homepage

          So instead of the word "elites," I will use the word, "Jews."

          Not only literally, in the case of the treacherous buddies from Israel wanting to forcefully draw America into war with Iran and exploit as usual America for its own gain; but figuratively, as in, all of the Gentiles in congress and the media who are greedy for money and accept bribes from Israel (paid by the Americans' own tax dollars) in exchange for loyalty to a nation not their own.

          Larry Wall himself couldn't have stated it more simply and eloquently: s/elites/Jews/g

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 22 2016, @04:14AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 22 2016, @04:14AM (#417521)

          Except there is no elites. It's just another name for scapegoats because it is not so good to pick on blacks, Jews, disabled, or gay these days. So whoever invented "elites" just taps into the same bullshit.

          Sorry, what? It isn't just word substitution. Its about who has power. Jews, gays and the disabled never had power. Elites, by definition, have power. They don't have unlimited power, and they are not a monolithic group. But, by and large, their voices matter a whole lot more than everybody else's. Its less like one man one vote and more like one dollar one vote.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by stormwyrm on Saturday October 22 2016, @08:04AM

        by stormwyrm (717) on Saturday October 22 2016, @08:04AM (#417550) Journal

        Snowden, patriot or spy, warned that the NSA infrastructure was a "turnkey surveillance state." What you just witnessed was the final test of its effectiveness.

        Senator Frank Church said pretty much the same thing back in 1975: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YipDR383hY [youtube.com] That's where Glenn Greenwald got the title of his book by the way. Looks like all Senator Church's worst fears are now coming to pass.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 22 2016, @04:05AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 22 2016, @04:05AM (#417518)

    > I bet "strong evidence" will point to Russia again...

    Wikileaks thinks it was their fans.

    http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/wikileaks-points-to-its-supporters-for-massive-ddos-cyber-attack-20161021-gs881u.html [smh.com.au]

  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Saturday October 22 2016, @12:14PM

    by Thexalon (636) on Saturday October 22 2016, @12:14PM (#417561)

    It's pretty clear that the "national security" state want a shooting war with Russia at this point. They've already made darn sure that the likely winner of the presidential election, who is already of a hawkish disposition when it comes to foreign policy, will loathe Putin with a passion upon taking office. And American Pravda, also known as the New York Times, is already running articles on their supposedly unprecedented sneaky tactics [nytimes.com] (never mind that the US military and CIA has done every single thing mentioned in the article for decades) that I'm sure are designed to get Americans thinking about the risks to all of our precious bodily fluids.

    So yes, I'm sure the classified briefing that can't be independently verified by anybody will contain "proof" that those nasty Russians are behind it. And the same person who bought into the very obviously faked information that the Iraqis had WMDs and were going to pass them to Osama bin Laden (who Saddam Hussein always hated, the idea that they were allied was ludicrous) will accept this "proof" hook, line, and sinker.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 22 2016, @01:10PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 22 2016, @01:10PM (#417565)

      > who is already of a hawkish disposition when it comes to foreign policy, will loathe Putin with a passion upon taking office

      Sorry, I don't buy that. Clinton and Putin were pretty much at odds since she was secretary of state. She may be a lot of things, but a naife easily led by emotion is not it.

      > It's pretty clear that the "national security" state want a shooting war with Russia at this point.

      Nah. Shooting war doesn't do much for the intelligence agencies. But a hacking war would. And whether it was with russia or some other group it doesn't really matter, they get full employment either way. I am watching the latest reporting on CBS right now and one of their MILF types said something about russia, but they immediately followed it up with the fact that the US isn't even blaming it on a state and then a talking head was interviewed for many minutes talking about friends-of-wikileaks, grey-hats and a whole bunch of other possibilities.

      Its easy to be cynical and see what you expect to see, but so far blaming it on russia isn't getting much traction.