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posted by janrinok on Sunday October 23 2016, @03:54AM   Printer-friendly
from the over-to-you dept.

From 2 very Anonymous Cowards:

Two of us volunteer to manage a private website with about 700 members, constantly rotating in and out (they are mostly undergrad students). For this we use low cost webhosting and recently found out that the email account (same ISP & domain name) only allows 60 outgoing emails/hour. Thus when we want to email the whole membership (a couple of times per year) we are going to have to break the list into a dozen pieces.

It would be nicer if we could submit the whole list at once. We don't mind if the emails are sent "drip feed" with one going out every minute or so.

Anyone ever seen anything like this? I tried a few search strings and didn't find anything, but my Google-fu may be bad today.


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  • (Score: 2) by NCommander on Sunday October 23 2016, @04:27AM

    by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Sunday October 23 2016, @04:27AM (#417746) Homepage Journal

    Honestly, depending on an ISP for mail service tends to be a bad idea in the long run because a lot of them are rather cheaply run and you run into crud like them filtering messages and such. If you can control the MX records of your domain, you're best off grabbing exim/postfix, and setting it up yourself. This gives you full control of your mail infrastructure, and as a bonus, you can run your own plugins like SpamAssassin or SMIME/Milter.

    Failing that, I believe Postfix has an outgoing limiter on how much mail it sends on one; you could use that and the smarthost option to dump all the mail into Postfix and it will slowly spool outbound over time. best of luck!

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 23 2016, @04:53AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 23 2016, @04:53AM (#417754)

    This and I would add if it is *really* important. Just buy some email service from someone. The last company I worked for we used ms office365 for a long time. The dudes in that org were NOT shy about emails. I could easy get 500 in 1 day, and that was not uncommon. Think the price was pretty reasonable too. There are several other companies you can buy this sort of service from.

    Farting around with email for fun can be just that. But when you want to do a group of people and at a good pace just buy it. It is one less thing you have to fart around with. Roll your own is fine when you are small. But eventually you get to the point where you should hire someone to do just that.

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by RamiK on Sunday October 23 2016, @06:41AM

    by RamiK (1813) on Sunday October 23 2016, @06:41AM (#417775)

    Many home users' IPs are blacklisted (https://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx) and can't be used to run their own SMTPs.

    There's no easy way around it: You either own a server with a commercial static IP address that you can send messages from or you end up having to relay. And often enough, relaying means losing control over your From field.

    Personally, I relay incoming faxes with a raspi hylafax\postfix server to gmail\1&1 accounts (relayhost=[smtp.gmail.com]:587 or relayhost=[smtp.mail.com]:465) using the usual CA issued keys (smtp_use_tls=yes). To make things private*, I encrypt the actual messages with a personal PGP key-pair. However, it means I need to use a client (thunderbird) to read the messages.

    *so google \ GMX \ someone guessing my account password won't be able to go through my mail. I leave the "the phone company \ government is reading my fax" paranoia to someone who actually cares about it.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 23 2016, @02:23PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 23 2016, @02:23PM (#417849)

      > Many home users' IPs are blacklisted (https://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx) and can't be used to run their own SMTPs.

      This.
      But not only that, even if you aren't officially blacklisted you may find yourself grey-listed such that the big email services will score your email as more likely to be spam. So if there is anything else about your message that bumps up the spam score you are much more likely to end up in the junk folder.

    • (Score: 2) by darkfeline on Sunday October 23 2016, @08:19PM

      by darkfeline (1030) on Sunday October 23 2016, @08:19PM (#417942) Homepage

      They said they're using cheap web hosting.

      DigitalOcean offers VPSs for $60 a year, and that's not the cheapest offering available. It can host a web server and SMTP server easily.

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      • (Score: 2, Informative) by speckled on Monday October 24 2016, @04:37AM

        by speckled (248) on Monday October 24 2016, @04:37AM (#418040)

        By far the cheapest VPS offer I know is ArubaCloud (1€ per month for 1GB RAM, 20GB SSD). I have two servers (Backup MX, VPN) there for a few months now, one in Italy and in Czech Republic, had no problems yet and, surprisingly, performance has also been great. Can't say anything about customer support, though.