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posted by janrinok on Thursday October 27 2016, @03:36AM   Printer-friendly
from the hacking-is-legal dept.

A US judge overseeing an FBI "Playpen case" has told agents to reveal whether or not their investigative hacking was approved by the White House.

The case is one of several the Feds are pursuing against more than 100 alleged users of the child sex abuse material exchange network called the Playpen. The prosecutions have become test grounds over investigators' use of hacking tools to unmask Tor users – Playpen was hidden in the Tor network and agents injected tracking software into Playpen visitors' browsers to identify users.

In June, a judge hearing one of the Playpen cases in Virginia ruled that the FBI can hack any computer in any country, if it wants.

During its investigation, the FBI compromised Playpen's Tor-protected distribution servers, leaving them in operation to keep users visiting the service. The Feds then hacked the targets' computers to identify the owners.

It's not a crime if the President orders it.


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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Francis on Thursday October 27 2016, @02:08PM

    by Francis (5544) on Thursday October 27 2016, @02:08PM (#419409)

    You're absolutely correct, how much do we talk about Stalin's or Mao's genocides. We talk a bit more about the Khmer Rouge, but most folks have no idea about King Leopold's genocide in the Congo during the 19th century.

    The reason why the Nazis got prosecuted was primarily because without the Nazi government and war apparatus there was no shielding them from foreign intervention. But, if you look at those examples, only the Khmer Rouge had any folks actually prosecuted for it. I don't believe a single person was prosecuted in any of those other governments for related crimes.

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 27 2016, @10:43PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 27 2016, @10:43PM (#419600) Journal

    You use the word "we", and I presume that "we" are western people of European descent.

    In China, they haven't forgotten such atrocities as the rape of Nanking. The atrocities committed by the communist government get a lot less lip service, primarily because the communists are still officially in charge. Badmouthing the party can cause citizens to assume ambient temperature.

    • (Score: 1) by Francis on Friday October 28 2016, @04:16AM

      by Francis (5544) on Friday October 28 2016, @04:16AM (#419714)

      That is true, but that's more or less my point. If the Chinese government had been overthrown, it's highly likely that there'd be more awareness of that in general. I doubt very much that most Chinese distinguish between the dead from Mao's leadership and the dead from the typical famines that ravaged the country up until the '70s.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 28 2016, @04:58AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 28 2016, @04:58AM (#419731)

      In China, they haven't forgotten such atrocities as the rape of Nanking. The atrocities committed by the communist government get a lot less lip service, primarily because the communists are still officially in charge.

      I knew it! Trump groped Ms. Nanking, and then raped her. So why does not the Communist party own up to this? What are they trying to hide? And what does Runaway not know? (Skip that last question, we do not want to be downloading infinite sets onto SoylentNews!)

    • (Score: 2) by gnuman on Friday October 28 2016, @06:21AM

      by gnuman (5013) on Friday October 28 2016, @06:21AM (#419746)

      In China, they haven't forgotten such atrocities as the rape of Nanking.

      The question was about Mao.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong#Great_Leap_Forward [wikipedia.org]

      Not about war with Japan. Same with Stalin, most have forgotten and some celebrate Stalin every year in Russia. None of such things do not happen with Hitler and Germany.

      Basically it is 100% true - history is written by victors. Victims of Carthage extermination probably could vouch for that.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Punic_War [wikipedia.org]

      For *centuries*, that history was written with Romans being the poor victims of evil Carthaginians. And battle hardened Roman soldiers wrote that what they were doing in Carthage was perversion of war - all kept hidden until few decades ago.

      So yes, if Hitler won the war, the Holocaust would have been glossed over. Few would care. Heck, look at more recent examples of genocide - Rwanda. Or Armenian genocide by Turkey, which is still denied. Why? Because victors can't admit it.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide [wikipedia.org]