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posted by janrinok on Thursday October 27 2016, @06:55AM   Printer-friendly
from the they-had-a-dream dept.

The Pirate Party looks set for a successful outing in the coming weekend's Icelandic elections.

A poll by local newspaper Morgunblaðið and the Icelandic Social Science Research Institute of the University of Iceland reports support for the Pirate Party is running at about 22.6 per cent, a point-and-a-half ahead of the ruling Independence Party and four points clear of the Left-Greens. That's impressive support, although the party's support has fallen a couple of points since March 2015.

Iceland uses s proportional representation system so the party's current level of support will likely translate into about 15 seats in the 63-member Althingi.

That won't be not enough for Píratar, the party's Icelandic name, to take government. It's also ruled out a coalition with the Independence Party.

But earlier this year Independence split and the recently-formed splinter group Viðreisn (tr. "Regeneration") is polling at 8.8 per cent and has ruled out joining a government with any of the current coalition parties. If the Pirates can align with Viðreisn and other like-minded parties it may therefore become part of a governing coalition and win some ministries.

Four years for a party founded by geeks to take over the government is not bad.


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  • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Thursday October 27 2016, @10:24PM

    by linkdude64 (5482) on Thursday October 27 2016, @10:24PM (#419594)

    The funny thing is that Trump's bad record includes calling fat women fat, and making money off of idiots. Hillary's record includes knowingly funding ISIS and 100% absolutely cheating her better opponent (Sanders) out of the election, and laughing about her successful defense of a child rapist, etc.

    One person's ill deeds clearly overshadows the other's on any reasonable moral scale. Yet you believe that both suffer from the same cognitive dissonance.

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  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday October 28 2016, @04:54AM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday October 28 2016, @04:54AM (#419730) Journal

    You're rather missing the point here...just because ol' pumpkin-head hasn't YET done any of those things is no guarantee he won't. Furthermore, given the 35+ years we've had to observe him in public, smart money is on him being far worse. In the words of today's kids, "he has no chill." Can you seriously imagine him in charge of foreign policy? Or nuclear weapons?

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    • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Saturday October 29 2016, @04:53AM

      by linkdude64 (5482) on Saturday October 29 2016, @04:53AM (#420044)

      "just because ol' pumpkin-head hasn't YET done any of those things is no guarantee he won't."

      This is the absolutely worst non-argument I see posted around online. I am almost certain that because you post on this website you believe that people should be considered innocent until proven guilty when it comes to privacy, surveillance, etc.

      Yet when other personal ideologies are at stake, you believe someone who is PROVABLY GUILTY is more innocent than somebody who has done absolutely nothing wrong.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday October 30 2016, @04:20AM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday October 30 2016, @04:20AM (#420430) Journal

        You're missing the point here; I would not shed a tear if someone dropped Hillary Clinton into an active volcano. The point here is that in the almost four decades of public exposure we've had to Drumpf, we've had ample time to figure out what he is. He's a narcissist, and an incompetent to boot. This isn't good vs. evil here, this is evil but sane vs evil and utterly insane. We're hosed either way; it's just that with Clinton in office I may juuuuuuust be able to survive long enough to get the hell out of Dodge and maybe set up a chicken farm somewhere, whereas Tribble-head there, if he continues to act the way he does now, will likely start World War Fuck You within six months of taking office.

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        • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Monday October 31 2016, @03:02AM

          by linkdude64 (5482) on Monday October 31 2016, @03:02AM (#420753)

          "evil but sane vs evil and utterly insane."

          Citation absolutely needed.
          Hillary: Colluding with the Saudi Government to protect ISIS is sane, because the Saudi's give me money.
          Trump: We can work with the Saudi Government, but they would have to pay us as a country for those protection services.

          Wow, what an absolute mad man.

          Hillary: Russia is conspiring against ME so WE as a country (meaning, your sons and daughters) need to stand strongly against them to protect ME!
          Trump: We need to work with, and get along with Russia. No more wars as "favors" for foreign donors.

          Absolutely insane!

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday October 31 2016, @06:46AM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday October 31 2016, @06:46AM (#420802) Journal

            Cover your ears; the point is cruising over your head at a bone-rattling Mach 3.4 as we speak.

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            • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Tuesday November 01 2016, @03:04AM

              by linkdude64 (5482) on Tuesday November 01 2016, @03:04AM (#421110)

              Your point is that Trump COULD be the next Hitler. I cannot contest that, because it is not a logical argument.

              In the same way that faith-based beliefs cannot be challenged because they do not rely on evidence, I cannot disagree with you that Trump might be "literally the next Hitler."

              "He's a narcissist, and an incompetent to boot."

              1) Who fucking cares. What does being a narcissist have to do with being an excellent president? JFK was a narcissist. Does Hillary Clinton not also think she is above the peasantry?
              2) A multi-billionaire is an incompetent person, where a kniving lawyer who sold out YOUR government for personal wealth is a competent one?

              If you want to be taken seriously, you have to operationalize your definitions, and yours are objectively inadequate and your worldviews are unsubstantiated by evidence.

              In fact: There is evidence directly contrary to your worldviews. Hillary Clinton has already overthrown foreign governments at the behest of her maniacal masters (Saudi Arabia) and has shown she is willing to let Americans die (then lie about it) to acheive those ends (Benghazi).

              Your POINT is that "Disregarding all evidence, Trump MIGHT literally be Hitler and Hillary is DEFINITELY the safe bet." That is an undebateable point because you are not basing your arguments on reason, evidence, or common sense.

              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday November 01 2016, @05:20AM

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday November 01 2016, @05:20AM (#421139) Journal
                What is it going to take to get this through to you?! I'm saying Drumpf is so completely fucking unhinged that he is physically not capable of doing the job. Do you get it now?

                Your assumption that him being a multibillionaire somehow makes him competent would be laughable were it not so tragic. Nations are not run the same way as businesses...and furthermore, I wouldn't trust a business, either, to a guy who underperformed the hedge fund indices and lost money running a fucking casino. If that does not set off alarm bells in your head I don't know what will.

                I am not sure Kennedy was a narcissist at all, let alone the same way this asshole is, and there was less "unitary executive" bullshit during his term than now. Clinton is also not a narcissist, though she is straight-up evil in other ways that make me just as nervous. What point are you trying to make here, other than an overgeneralization of the idea that past events don't influence future ones? That's only true for independent trials; human nature does not work that way. Unlike a roulette wheel, we have memories, habits, biases.
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                • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Tuesday November 01 2016, @02:48PM

                  by linkdude64 (5482) on Tuesday November 01 2016, @02:48PM (#421261)

                  "Drumpf is so completely fucking unhinged that he is physically not capable of doing the job. Do you get it now?"

                  If you knew half of what Hillary Clinton has done you would be incapable of choosing her over him. Your ignorance is just apparent. Have you not read the Wikileaks? Are you unaware of the regimes that she has supported? The ones that she currently supports?

                  "Your assumption that him being a multibillionaire somehow makes him competent would be laughable were it not so tragic."

                  Your assumption that he somehow tripped, fell, and multiplied his million dollar fortune over 1,000x would be laughable were it not so tragic. If you think "Shit, I could've done that too!" You have probably thought the same about master-work paintings, sculptures, etc.

                  "lost money running a fucking casino."

                  You get most of your other news from the Huffington Post, don't you?
                  He sold that casino to an investor (making money on the sale), charged him royalties to keep his name up on the building, and made out like a fucking bandit with that failing casino! Trump is operating so many levels above your awareness that it's making me physically chuckle.

                  I'll take another moment to put things in perspective:
                  You think Trump lost millions of dollars. Billions of dollars. Let's say he lost 1 TRILLION dollars.
                  Now, do you want to know how many millions of dollars Hillary Clinton has sent to head-chopping, woman-circumsizing, child-raping barbarians to keep her campaign donors happy? How many millions of dollars do you think? 10 million ? 20? Try hundreds of millions.

                  Hundreds of millions of YOUR MONEY Your schools, your roads, your healthcare, your issues. All to give weapons to some of the most violent people alive. And for what? What? Campaign donations. To keep herself in power. WHO IS THE UNHINGED ONE???

                  "I am not sure Kennedy was a narcissist at all"

                  Then you have absolutely no idea who Kennedy was. Nixon was too, but he was more of a narcissist like Clinton is - willing to go to any length, lie any lie, kill any number of people to keep his image up. Hillary has killed thousands and thousands.

                  "Unlike a roulette wheel, we have memories, habits, biases."

                  And Hillary Clinton's is following a very clear trajectory. She is losing her fucking mind to corruption and if all of her past abominable actions - not just "losing money" lol "called women fat" - I mean global-scale abominable actions (Of which Trump has fucking ZERO) are rewarded with MORE power, she will take this country down a path so insane that it will be unrecognizeable in another decade.

                  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday November 01 2016, @04:34PM

                    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday November 01 2016, @04:34PM (#421300) Journal

                    A decade? You're being optimistic. I just hope it lasts another couple of years so I can finalize plans with a couple of friends and get a small chicken-and-vegetables farm going out there somewhere. I've resigned myself to an early and likely violent death, but fuck me if I just sit here and let it happen.

                    We're in agreement about Clinton. I hate her fucking guts, and I don't think I'll ever feel so filthy about any single vote as the one she's getting from me in a week or so. God, what a mess. This country is finished; we're in the middle stages of a failure mode here, just like and for just the same reasons as the former USSR.

                    Most of the rest of your post is noise, especially your idiotic brain-squitter about "hurr hurr did Drumpf just trip over his fortune then?" No, man, he didn't; he *is* the elite, and he used the same complete lack of accountability and "creative accounting" they all do to throw actual laws and rules of logic and finance to the wind.

                    Look, I GET it, we're fucked. I've known this would happen ever since that fateful day in high school when, within close enough distance to see the smoke, those two planes crashed into the Twin Towers. I was just hoping it wouldn't be so soon...

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                    • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Thursday November 03 2016, @02:35AM

                      by linkdude64 (5482) on Thursday November 03 2016, @02:35AM (#421910)

                      Nothing in the first two sections of your post I disagree with.

                      " No, man, he didn't; he *is* the elite"

                      Bull, fucking, shit
                      All of the other "elites" and all of the other spineless people who care nothing for America or what it stood or stands for (that includes you), are fleeing the country in record numbers. Ditching US Investments by selling them to China, moving money into offshore accounts, etc. Clinton herself moved 16 million into a bank in Yemen recently through JP Morgan Chase. Nobody knows why.

                      So, kindly notice that Trump is the only member of the "elite" who is doubling down on his belief in America, shelling out millions of his own dollars, enduring CONSTANT ridicule, slander, and utter HATRED from idiots like you for WHAT?!

                      Profit? He's losing money! (Which you, even now, grudgingly admit he is better-than-average at getting)
                      Popularity? He just had his Walk of Fame star smashed.
                      Peace and quiet? Look into how he's had his entire life slandered.

                      Why? To Make America Great Again because he LOVES this fucking country!

                      YOU are no better than the elite who say, "I'm going to take what I can, while I can, set fire to what's behind me, and get out." You are in no better mindset than those "Elite" who you claim to despise.

                      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 03 2016, @03:44AM

                        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday November 03 2016, @03:44AM (#421923) Journal

                        Are you done throwing your little temper tantrum yet? Drumpf's doubling down because he doesn't know any other course of action; it's a mark of the pathological narcissist. Nothing of external reality ever enters this man's head. The fact that you're lionizing him like this is making me question your sanity.

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                        • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Thursday November 03 2016, @03:44PM

                          by linkdude64 (5482) on Thursday November 03 2016, @03:44PM (#422083)

                          "Little temper tantrum"

                          You are what you do, independent of current events. You are abandoning the country and its principles that enabled you to be.

                          "he doesn't know any other course of action; it's a mark of the pathological narcissist."

                          "Billionaire is rich, famous, owns a jet, and can do quite literally anything he wants...his ONLY OPTION, at 70 years old, is to sacrifice ALL of that and get millions of people to HATE him by touting unpopular opinions while running for President of the United States."

                          To be completely fair, I have read Bigfoot stories that are more logically sequenced than that.

                          You have absolutely no evidence behind any one of your Anti-Trump claims, and you are willfully voting for somebody who has endangered - quite literally - the entire world with her 2nd Cold-War starting, ISIS-funding/Refugee-crisis creating actions. You are voting for a person who has proven herself to be a truly deplorable human being (not just a greedy one) who is capable and very willing to threaten any victim - be they abused woman or violated child - again and again and AGAIN to save face, LIE about it when caught, and, in the face of undeniable evidence, you still choose to believe that she is not the greater narcissist. There clearly exists no evidence of any kind that can be shown to you to dissuade you from your opinion, and that is the definition of a religious belief. Pray to your Youtube Saint John Oliver, and pray hard, because Hillary Clinton is simply more evil than you are willing to comprehend.

                          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 03 2016, @04:28PM

                            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday November 03 2016, @04:28PM (#422105) Journal

                            Is it NaNoWriMo already...?

                            Once more, Link: I am well aware of how fucking evil the Clinton dynasty is, and if someone assassinated the entire clan tomorrow, preferably with incendiary weaponry, I would not shed a single tear. We're fucked no matter what happens.

                            You've been taken in by the cult of personality, though: this race isn't about Clinton vs Trump so much as it is about the Senate and especially the Supreme Court. As much as I hate to do this, I am voting Clinton on the gamble that there are enough sane people on the D side that they can reign the worst of her excesses in.

                            A Trump presidency, on the other hand, would play out the same way it did the last time we had a certified retard (Dubya) in office: he's spend his presidency masturbating to his own reflection in the giant gilded mirrors he'd install in the Oval Office, as his handlers (think Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, that sort of people) take the reins from behind the scenes and complete their fascist takeover. Trump is a useful idiot, emphasis on idiot.

                            Do you get it now? Zoom out and look at the big picture.

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                            • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Friday November 04 2016, @02:49PM

                              by linkdude64 (5482) on Friday November 04 2016, @02:49PM (#422484)

                              Check it out: Julian Assange speaks today from London.

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ7lYRnF1F8 [youtube.com]

                              "We're fucked no matter what happens."

                              In one situation you go down fighting for your country, in the other, you run. As stated earlier, you are what you do, and you are choosing the latter. You do not care about America and never understood what it was created to be. If you did, your actions would prove it.

                              "the Senate and especially the Supreme Court."

                              Trump wants to pass a Constitutional Amendment to impose Congressional term limits. How on Earth you think that will be WORSE for the future of this country is beyond my wildest imagining. Not to mention anything about how salt-white-saintly he is in every aspect compared to Clinton in terms of corruption. There is no cult of personality, there is simply no contest (AGAIN, dealing EXCLUSIVELY with evidence and the real world, here) about who is the one that is less corrupt and more inclined to care about what happens to America.

                              "there are enough sane people on the D side that they can reign the worst of her excesses in."

                              Wow. You think that rewarding one of the most corrupt political figures in world history with the Presidency will destroy the ambitions of the corrupt in Congress? Or that it will do anything but Annihilate the hope that any deep-down honest Senators have left that the system is capable of changing? Why do you think she had the Superdelegate votes to kick Sanders out? You are - again, in the face of ALL evidence - supporting a known body of evil publicly, and hoping that same evil recuses itself.

                              "Trump is a useful idiot, emphasis on idiot."

                              Which is why he infuriated and stupefied every leading RNC shitbag during the debates for the candidacy, spit in their faces by talking shit about them publicly, cost them hundreds of millions of dollars, then made his hard-right constituency give a thundering round of applause for the sake of protecting the L-G-B-T-Q community at the RNC itself?

                              You seriously believe that the over 100 million dollars the RNC *wasted* backing Jeb Bush alone was all part of the plan? That Trump is not at the reigns? Zoom out and look at the big picture. Trump has gutted the RNC and has completely taken over. His supporters do NOT support the RNC establishment that tried to backstab him at every opportunity - they support *HIM* and not because of who he is, but because of what he has done.

                              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday November 04 2016, @05:04PM

                                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday November 04 2016, @05:04PM (#422533) Journal

                                Okay, I give up. Paine was right; using reason with someone who has renounced its use is like giving medicine to a corpse. I love how you idiots think you'd actually survive the upheaval this would all cause. Temporarily-embarrassed elites, that's you, all right.

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                                • (Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Friday November 04 2016, @11:11PM

                                  by linkdude64 (5482) on Friday November 04 2016, @11:11PM (#422668)

                                  Yep. Hillary Clinton is the sane choice, and Donald Trump is a madman. Got it.

                                  https://archive.is/ehpoJ [archive.is]
                                  That's a link about an ongoing NYPD Investigation of emails seized directly from Huma Abedin's laptop, under a warrant, that show the Clintons visiting a pedophilic sex-slave island multiple times. This is not conspiracy. Again, this is that "evidence" thing that you hate so much. Let me guess, "B-but DRUMPF called Rosie O Donnell fat!!! He's the crazy one, not the objectively proven pedophilic ISIS-supporting murderers."

                                  Who would you rather watch your niece or nephew? A person you disagree with, or a pedophilic murderer?

                                  I may be an idiot, but you are a truly disgusting coward. I can understand why people would vote for Clinton, the people who don't know who Hillary actually is, but for you, there is absolutely no excuse.