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from the when-times-are-forced-to-change dept.
When trying to understand the two bad choices we have now, it can help to look into the past at where they came from. In this article, Matt Stoller at The Atlantic provides a deep dive into a transformation the Democratic party underwent in the late 1960s onward. In it we see how the Democrats morphed the anti-big-business politics that had powered it for over a century into the big-government politics that define the political conversation today.
Modern liberals tend to confuse a broad social-welfare state and redistribution of resources in the form of tax-and-spend policies with the New Deal. In fact, the central tenet of New Deal competition policy was not big or small government; it was distrust of concentrations of power and conflicts of interest in the economy. The New Deal divided power, pitting faction against other faction, a classic Jefferson-Madison approach to controlling power (think Federalist Paper No. 10). Competition policy meant preserving democracy within the commercial sphere, by keeping markets open. Again, for New Deal populists like Brandeis and Patman [ed: links mine], it was democracy or concentrated wealth—but not both.
[...] The story of why the Watergate Babies spurned populism is its own intellectual journey. It started with a generation of politicians who cut their teeth on college-campus politics. In their youth, they saw, up close, not the perils of robber barons, but the failure of the New Deal state, most profoundly through the war in Vietnam. "We were the '60s generation that didn't drop out," Bob Edgar, a U.S. representative from the class of 1975, told me. The war in Vietnam shaped their generation in two profound ways. First, it disillusioned them toward the New Deal. It was, after all, many New Dealers, including union insiders, who nominated Hubert Humphrey in 1968 and who supported a war that killed millions, including 50,000 Americans their age. And second, higher education—the province of the affluent—exempted one from military service, which was an explicit distinction among classes.
[...] By quietly cutting back the influence of unions, [Democratic strategist Fred] Dutton sought to eject the white working class from the Democratic Party, which he saw as "a major redoubt of traditional Americanism and of the antinegro, antiyouth vote." The future, he argued, lay in a coalition of African Americans, feminists, and affluent, young, college-educated whites.
[...] By 2008, the ideas that took hold in the 1970s had been Democratic orthodoxy for two generations. "Left-wing" meant opposing war, supporting social tolerance, advocating environmentalism, and accepting corporatism and big finance while also seeking redistribution via taxes.
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Thursday November 03 2016, @08:46PM
This still doesn't make sense, when compared to Trump supporters. Despite the media constantly telling them it's a "lost cause", they're extremely enthusiastic, they attend his rallies by the tens of thousands, and there's every expectation they're going to show up to vote, even though the media is constantly telling us that there's no way he can win. In fact, now the media has changed its tune and is warning us that he very well could win. I don't really see how Bernie voters, who were also extremely enthusiastic and attended his rallies in huge numbers, are somehow much easier to dissuade from voting. The only factor that I can see is different is that Bernie voters tended to be young, and they're infamous for not showing up for various reasons; perhaps they screwed up and missed the registration deadline, perhaps they were too busy with school, whereas older retired voters have all the time in the world and are very experienced in getting registered and voting.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday November 03 2016, @09:36PM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @05:11AM
Sanders voters were all about being 'right kind of liberal' and that involves not being aggressive.
Trump voters are all about being liberal kind of right, and that involves being aggressive.
Also, I find it funny that the so called conservatives are trying their best to usurp the system, while the so called liberals are trying their best to keep it going by voting hilariously corrupt Clinton. But then, America has perfected tribalism, with every single idea being termed as part of a group.
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday November 04 2016, @04:17PM
You must have not been attention to all his rallies, plus how his supporters showed up at the convention and caused a scene and were thrown out.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday November 05 2016, @02:19PM