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posted by cmn32480 on Thursday November 03 2016, @01:36PM   Printer-friendly
from the when-times-are-forced-to-change dept.

When trying to understand the two bad choices we have now, it can help to look into the past at where they came from. In this article, Matt Stoller at The Atlantic provides a deep dive into a transformation the Democratic party underwent in the late 1960s onward. In it we see how the Democrats morphed the anti-big-business politics that had powered it for over a century into the big-government politics that define the political conversation today.

Modern liberals tend to confuse a broad social-welfare state and redistribution of resources in the form of tax-and-spend policies with the New Deal. In fact, the central tenet of New Deal competition policy was not big or small government; it was distrust of concentrations of power and conflicts of interest in the economy. The New Deal divided power, pitting faction against other faction, a classic Jefferson-Madison approach to controlling power (think Federalist Paper No. 10). Competition policy meant preserving democracy within the commercial sphere, by keeping markets open. Again, for New Deal populists like Brandeis and Patman [ed: links mine], it was democracy or concentrated wealth—but not both.

[...] The story of why the Watergate Babies spurned populism is its own intellectual journey. It started with a generation of politicians who cut their teeth on college-campus politics. In their youth, they saw, up close, not the perils of robber barons, but the failure of the New Deal state, most profoundly through the war in Vietnam. "We were the '60s generation that didn't drop out," Bob Edgar, a U.S. representative from the class of 1975, told me. The war in Vietnam shaped their generation in two profound ways. First, it disillusioned them toward the New Deal. It was, after all, many New Dealers, including union insiders, who nominated Hubert Humphrey in 1968 and who supported a war that killed millions, including 50,000 Americans their age. And second, higher education—the province of the affluent—exempted one from military service, which was an explicit distinction among classes.

[...] By quietly cutting back the influence of unions, [Democratic strategist Fred] Dutton sought to eject the white working class from the Democratic Party, which he saw as "a major redoubt of traditional Americanism and of the antinegro, antiyouth vote." The future, he argued, lay in a coalition of African Americans, feminists, and affluent, young, college-educated whites.

[...] By 2008, the ideas that took hold in the 1970s had been Democratic orthodoxy for two generations. "Left-wing" meant opposing war, supporting social tolerance, advocating environmentalism, and accepting corporatism and big finance while also seeking redistribution via taxes.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @01:37AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @01:37AM (#422336)

    In 2000, the Democratic party broke up Microsoft for anti-trust violations

    Wow! Could you possibly be more wrong?

    1) It was the courts that decided the case.
    (Courts are supposed to be non-partisan.)

    2) Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson was a Reagan appointee.
    -He- was the presiding judge and the one who wanted to break MSFT into little impotent pieces.

    3) He shot his mouth off to the press and was removed from the case before the penalty phase.

    4) MSFT was never reorganized by gov't mandate.
    They got a consent decree, which they abused repeatedly and which, as a result, was extended repeatedly--until it didn't matter any more.
    IOW, M$ won.

    The reasons that Redmond is increasingly insignificant are
    a) Ballmer
    b) their abusive business model
    c) LoseME, Visduh, Visduh 8, Visduh 10
    d) The price of a pre-installed OS can't be noticeable in the price of the (increasingly cheaper) hardware
    d) They missed the boat on mobile
    e) Free Software can do what payware does for most folks; on servers, FOSS is clearly superior

    You need to brush up on your History.

    -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @04:58AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @04:58AM (#422377)

    Free Software can do what payware does for most folks; on servers, FOSS is clearly superior

    I think you are missing the $$$/server enterprise licensed Linux offerings that actually make most of the FOSS actually feasible as OSS. Without commercial backing, you'd have barely a BSD-level OS, which sadly cannot compete with Microsoft Server software.

    Thousands and thousands of people work on FOSS as part of their job, because lots of FOSS *is* "payware".

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @07:26AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 04 2016, @07:26AM (#422402)

      I'm not sure I'm getting your point.
      I will say that when I mean "gratis", I use that word.

      -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]