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posted by NCommander on Monday November 07 2016, @12:44PM   Printer-friendly
from the whadaya-say? dept.

So, as per usual, I like to occasionally check the pulse on the community to make sure that people for the most part are happy and satisfied with the day-to-day operation of the site. For those of you who are new to the community, first, let me welcome you and explain how these work.

When I open the floor to the community, the intent is to provide a venue to discuss anything related to site operations, content, and anything along those lines. I actively review and comment on these posts, and if one issue pops up multiple times in comments, I generally run follow up articles to try and help address issues the community feels is important before someone decides to take rehash and form a spinoff. Feel free to leave whatever thoughts you want below.

In contrary to my usual posts, I don't have that much to say to this, so to both the community and editorial team's relief, I'll cut this off right here before it becomes Yet Another NCommander Novel.

~ NCommander

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 07 2016, @01:57PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 07 2016, @01:57PM (#423495)

    You have comments that are modded back and forth multiple times depending on which sensibility is offended/promoted, which in itself wouldn't be so bad, but there is very little discussion that follows. Trolling and flamebait are essentially meaningless now.

    As everyone has mod points, this translates into whatever dominant sensibility obliterating any other point of view. It's mob rule.

    Some one else mentioned weighted modding after a comment goes past a certain number adjustments, and it just may be a by-product of the political season in the US, but it does seem the back and forth is more acute now.

  • (Score: 2) by BK on Monday November 07 2016, @03:11PM

    by BK (4868) on Monday November 07 2016, @03:11PM (#423526)

    I think you'll find that mob rule goes back a fair distance before the current US election.

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    • (Score: 2) by BK on Monday November 07 2016, @03:33PM

      by BK (4868) on Monday November 07 2016, @03:33PM (#423532)

      Forgot to include the link! [soylentnews.org]

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday November 07 2016, @03:44PM

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday November 07 2016, @03:44PM (#423537) Homepage Journal

    It's probably always going to be populist rule around here. I can't see myself deciding we need a ruling moderator class around here; at least and I plan on weighing in vehemently with that position should it come up again.

    Thankfully, we do have a fair percentage of people who will upvote you even if they disagree with you though. It mostly balances out on average as far as I can tell, though not on every individual comment.

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  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday November 07 2016, @03:55PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday November 07 2016, @03:55PM (#423552) Journal

    Old Slashdot had meta moderation to address that. I don't know if we have crossed that threshhold, but it's an option.

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    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday November 07 2016, @04:23PM

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday November 07 2016, @04:23PM (#423574) Homepage Journal

      I think NCommander fixed that without telling anyone a while back but really that just increases the effect of the majority since the minority wouldn't get to moderate as much any more. The only real solution here is to find someone absolutely impartial and let them start handing out moderation bans. Which just ain't gonna happen because nobody is absolutely impartial.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 07 2016, @09:40PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 07 2016, @09:40PM (#423769)

        The only real solution here is to find someone absolutely impartial and let them start handing out moderation bans. Which just ain't gonna happen because nobody is absolutely impartial.

        Apparently someone thinks they are that impartial. I don't know about anyone else but I got banned from moderation for two weeks for a single downmod that was borderline incorrect but I felt it was justified.

        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 08 2016, @11:13AM

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 08 2016, @11:13AM (#424016) Homepage Journal

          Must have been Spam abuse. Has nothing to do with partiality there. We laid out what constitutes Spam and if you got your mod privs pulled it's because you didn't follow the guidelines. Also, it would have been for a month not two weeks.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by NCommander on Tuesday November 08 2016, @12:57AM

      by NCommander (2) Subscriber Badge <michael@casadevall.pro> on Tuesday November 08 2016, @12:57AM (#423868) Homepage Journal

      Meta moderation (M2) was fixed some time ago, but is disabled. The current moderation algrothimn doesn't look at the m2 fields in the database at all. I'm not convinced its a way to fix the problem because very few people on the whole moderate in general, and meta-moderation just gets tedious after awhile to the point I'm concerned it would compound the groupthink, since the subset of those who M2 would have more control over who gets mod points vs. not.

      I may be willing to try it on a trial basis, but I'm on the whole 'eh'.

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      • (Score: 2) by mojo chan on Tuesday November 08 2016, @10:54AM

        by mojo chan (266) on Tuesday November 08 2016, @10:54AM (#424006)

        How about making down-mods have negative consequences after say the first 2 per day. That way real trolls can still get their -1s, but people who just go around hammering opinions they don't like will soon end up with no mod points.

        The lack of consequences for bad moderation are what screwed up Slashdot. Meta-moderation was supposed to fix it, but after a while they just started abusing that too and it actually created a feedback loop that ended up helping the trolls.

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        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 08 2016, @11:36AM

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 08 2016, @11:36AM (#424023) Homepage Journal

          How about giving out ten points a day and only letting five(?) of them go to downmods? Been tossing that one around inside my head for a bit.

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          • (Score: 2) by mojo chan on Tuesday November 08 2016, @11:49AM

            by mojo chan (266) on Tuesday November 08 2016, @11:49AM (#424026)

            I like that, but maybe only 2 for down-mods. What we really want is people to up-mod replies that rebuff arguments they disagree with, not simply mod them down.

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