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posted by cmn32480 on Sunday November 06 2016, @10:23PM   Printer-friendly
from the people-eating-tasty-animals dept.

The Christian Science Monitor reports

Nashville residents who dropped by their local Arby's beginning [the week of November 2] could try the restaurant's limited-time-only venison, or deer meat, sandwich, which the fast-food chain debuted in commemoration of the beginning of deer hunting season.

[...] Many of the Arby's locations that are selling the sandwich are located in more populous or urban areas rather than rural areas where one might expect people to hunt. But Evan Heusinkveld, the president and CEO of the Sportsmen's Alliance, tells The Christian Science Monitor that the urban population is exactly the group that should have the opportunity to try venison.

"Many people who live in the country either have their own freezer of venison or know somebody who hunts", he says, "Selling to city dwellers is exactly what the hunting community would love to see."

While Arby's venison is sourced from farm-raised deer in New Zealand due to USDA rules against serving wild-harvested meat, it will still give customers a taste of what they're missing. The sandwich features a juicy venison steak, crispy onions, and juniper berry sauce.

Arby's venison sandwiches will be offered in just 17 locations in six states (Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, and Georgia) during deer season, with the promotion ending the Monday after Thanksgiving.

So far, the company says the sandwich has been a big hit.


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  • (Score: 2) by canopic jug on Monday November 07 2016, @10:11AM

    by canopic jug (3949) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 07 2016, @10:11AM (#423423) Journal

    but deliberately purchasing something from across the world when it's literally in your fucking backyard?

    Indeed. Any few trees that remain in or near suburbia are technically edge and not forest, thus perfect habitat for the deer. In a great many regions, the deer have reached plague-like numbers due to complete lack of predators, not even hunters. The things not only much down nearly all vegetation from your yard, even starvation food, they still drop dead in great numbers due to hunger and disease. The starvation weakens the population and facilitates the spread of disease which then results in a painful and very prolonged death for the animals. There are really two alternatives that don't cause misery for the homeowners and the deer: shooting them and throwing away the carcass, or shooting them and eating them. Sadly, because of the density of housing these days, either one is very difficult to arrange bureaucratically. However, harvesting them does solve several problems not the least is the waste of shipping food back and forth across the face of the Earth needlessly.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday November 07 2016, @10:16AM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 07 2016, @10:16AM (#423426) Journal
    Wild deer can't be harvested for public consumption. The huge problem as I understand it is no control over disease (which as you note is a big problem of an overpopulation of deer).
    • (Score: 2) by canopic jug on Monday November 07 2016, @10:38AM

      by canopic jug (3949) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 07 2016, @10:38AM (#423438) Journal
      Other countries allow it, but they appear to have a better health and safety inspection apparatus as well as better compliance. What would it take for the US corporate culture to be changed enough to produce safe food let alone safely harvest wild food?
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      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday November 07 2016, @05:11PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 07 2016, @05:11PM (#423608) Journal

        What would it take for the US corporate culture to be changed enough to produce safe food let alone safely harvest wild food?

        A regulator to approve it. That's all that is required from "US corporate culture".

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by VLM on Monday November 07 2016, @01:04PM

    by VLM (445) on Monday November 07 2016, @01:04PM (#423463)

    Sadly, because of the density of housing these days

    This probably drops the dox on where I live, but I live in a well known outdoors recreation state and over the course of my lifetime the gun deer season seems to get shorter every year now down to about ten days around thanksgiving and the bow deer season gets longer now basically the entire fall until its -20F at night and the DNR thinks allowing hunting would result in bad PR from too many drunken hunter-icicles freezing at night. We're rapidly approaching the point where bow deer season is basically labor day till new years.

    Note I don't hunt, but because of where I live everyone else hunts, so some of my data might be off, but not by much...

    Anyway my point is it would be fairly reckless to allow gun hunting in urban areas because of rounds that fly right thru both sides of houses and into the next house etc but even in cheap bubble areas I don't think a hunting arrow would make it thru a wall. Maybe shatter a window, worst case. Bow hunting has the virtue of also being silent.

    facilitates the spread of disease

    The state I live in has a CWD disease population and my hunting coworkers keep bringing in venison jerky for everyone and I keep politely turning it down. No one in an outdoor recreation state wants to hear that 2000 years ago religions prohibited pig consumption because without industrial era control and care given to cooking you'll get all kinds of interesting worm infections and disease issues, and like it or not, that's how venison is now, I'm not eating that stuff until the odds of CWD infection drop from 10% or whatever it is (50%?) to basically zero. Also unlike (gross) intestinal worms there is no treatment if a human gets the human equivalent of CWD. It just seems foolish to eat venison in 2016 and the only thing that could make it worse would be less hunting leading to some kind of zombie plague of CWD infected deer.

    Several of my coworkers have dropped out of deer hunting but have begun turkey hunting... they do believe they're going to serve a thanksgiving turkey that they caught. Some success, some failure. Its more or less the same timeperiod, at least in this state, so its fully compatible with the deer hunting lifestyle. I'm uneducated enough in the world of poultry to know if wild turkeys have any exciting diseases, that are worse than salmonella chicken from the food store anyway.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 07 2016, @02:50PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 07 2016, @02:50PM (#423517)

      Anyway my point is it would be fairly reckless to allow gun hunting in urban areas because of rounds that fly right thru both sides of houses and into the next house etc but even in cheap bubble areas I don't think a hunting arrow would make it thru a wall. Maybe shatter a window, worst case. Bow hunting has the virtue of also being silent.

      You underestimate the penetrating power of a serious hunting bow. A brick wall will stop one, but it will go right through a couple of layers of siding and drywall, with plenty of oompf left to puncture a human.
      Mine was only a 65lb draw, and it would go right through an eight inch high stack of flat paper.