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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday November 08 2016, @11:41AM   Printer-friendly
from the less-suckage-than-the-last-time-around dept.

Xubuntu is a light-ish spin of Ubuntu Linux. It uses the Xfce desktop environment and is suitable for older machines which would bog down with a heavier DE like Unity or GNOME or KDE.

Curmudgeonly software reviewer Dedoimedo reports:

Giving a high score to Xubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak may look as if it's getting credit only because all other Ubuntu releases this year were horrible, but it is not so. If we exclude the hardware-specific issues with the Realtek drivers--which is a big issue across the entire distro world--and the package manager choice, there weren't any huge, cardinal problems this time. It would seem that Xubuntu is recovering gently. Perhaps it is still too early to tell, but Yak is much, much better than [Xubuntu 16.04 Xenial] Xerus. And it deserves 8/10.


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  • (Score: 2) by PizzaRollPlinkett on Tuesday November 08 2016, @02:05PM

    by PizzaRollPlinkett (4512) on Tuesday November 08 2016, @02:05PM (#424067)

    Forget about bogging down on old hardware.... KDE5 is such a dumpster fire I ditched it for Xfce and am really happy. I can't figure out what happened with KDE5. I switched to KDE4 after Gnome 3 ruined Gnome for me (not having fixed, permanent virtual desktops destroyed my whole approach to using a desktop environment), and it was usable. I liked it. But then KDE5 came along and was a complete disaster. It crashed all the time. Components constantly crashed as I was using it. It locked up my computer. Even little things were bizarre. On one machine, the KDE terminal would lock up. I used Gnome's terminal on that machine to get around it. Emacs suddenly was unable to use the clipboard and had to be restarted. The panel would crash constantly, and always restart on a different monitor than it was on when it crashed. Windows would go haywire and start appearing on the wrong virtual desktop. The number of constantly annoying things added up quickly. I've never seen software go this bad this quickly.

    So I switched to Xfce and have been happy so far. All KDE had to do to win was not completely ruin their desktop environment, and they did it anyway and lost. Now, how long will it be before Xfce ruins itself? It's like once Gnome 3 ruined Gnome, whatever I switch to has to ruin itself too.

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  • (Score: 2) by Nerdfest on Tuesday November 08 2016, @04:26PM

    by Nerdfest (80) on Tuesday November 08 2016, @04:26PM (#424117)

    KDE's been better lately. Still hit the very occasional crash and restart of the plasma workspace, but it general it's very solid. Yeah, their timing sucked, as did the drastic changes by most of the desktops when they had the opportunity to grab a lot of people annoyed ant the Windows 8 disaster.

    • (Score: 2) by PizzaRollPlinkett on Tuesday November 08 2016, @05:03PM

      by PizzaRollPlinkett (4512) on Tuesday November 08 2016, @05:03PM (#424133)

      I only switched to Xfce a couple of months ago, and KDE5 was the same dumpster fire it had been for about a year.

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      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday November 08 2016, @06:02PM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday November 08 2016, @06:02PM (#424154) Journal

        I actually like the concept behind Plasma 5, and as of 5.8 it's really polished and usable. The problem, though, is 1) there aren't any good icon themes and very few Plasma themes; it's all this ugly, antifunctional, postmodern "flat" horseshit, and 2) it's nowhere near as configurable as KDE4 was by the end, which is a real issue.

        Once they get things like a Global Menu back in, an app menu you can change the size of (seriously, KDE guys, what the actual fuck...), and some icon themes that don't look like someone's Samsung Note 7 took a massive diarrhea shit all over the filesystem, they'll be in a good place.

        Personally, I want to see the Elementary icon theme ported to Plasma 5. Faenza, too. And the Mint-X-Colors sets.

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        • (Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday November 08 2016, @11:17PM

          by frojack (1554) on Tuesday November 08 2016, @11:17PM (#424286) Journal

          If you haven't figured out how to do ALL of those you must have spent all of 12 minutes running KDE/Plasma.
          There are three alternative menuing systems switchable in real time and all are very configurable.

          There are more icon themes than you ca shake a stick at, 1175 Icon Themes on kde.org. At least three versions of Elementary and several Faenza versions as well. If you couldn't find them you weren't trying.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 08 2016, @06:42PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 08 2016, @06:42PM (#424170)

    In a previous thread in the journal of mcgrew, I addressed the topic You say that the new KDE sucks? [soylentnews.org]

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    The Trinity desktop environment is a fork of KDE3.
    Chakra Linux is a distro that uses Trinity by default.

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