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President-elect Donald Trump realized early in his campaign that U.S. IT workers were angry over training foreign visa-holding replacements. He knew this anger was volcanic.
Trump is the first major U.S. presidential candidate in this race -- or any previous presidential race -- to focus on the use of the H-1B visa to displace IT workers. He asked former Disney IT employees, upset over having to train foreign replacements, to speak at his rallies.
"The fact is that Americans are losing their jobs to foreigners," said Dena Moore, a former Disney IT worker at a Trump rally in Alabama in February. "I believe Mr. Trump is for Americans first."
Yes, US nerds were angry about training H-1B replacements, but how much could they have helped put him over the top?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:02PM
I'M WITH HER [xkcd.com]
Nerds voted for Cliton because Ram-Hole Man-Ho told them to.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:11PM
Nope, I've seen too many nerds that are pro Trump, they wanted a "fuck you" vote along with being highly entertained by his antics. Now which candidate got the majority of the nerd vote is something we'll probably never know.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:29PM
Yup, I was pro-Trump in the primaries just for troll solidarity. The way he continually cock-slaps the media amuses me to no end.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:34PM
Glad to see you have your priorities straight at least *rolls eyes*
Yeah, the Democrats have had this coming since Nixon, and in that regard I'm glad this happened, but this is going to cause widespread misery for a hell of a lot of people. Call me silly, but that's a problem. I'm getting the hell out of Dodge while the gettin's good, hopefully before this time next year.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:38PM
I'm not ashamed. My vote in the primaries didn't get him the nomination. He won my state by over ten percent.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:04PM
Your username really checks out. I can just imagine you sitting on a dead tree overlooking a valley waiting for the next liberal to keel over so you can feast on its corpse.
I guess you're just a symptom of the age, people so disillusioned they'll make decisions for the entertainment value they'll receive. I have a friend like that, his mom was very ashamed of him when he voted for an actor because "fuck it why not its funny!"
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:52PM
Oh until this year I was voting for whoever I thought would destroy the country the fastest. I'm mellowing in my old age.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:39PM
Oh, I apologize. Where are my manners? Do you need help packing or loading the truck?
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:20PM
Its funny how you highlight how you're such a tool all the time, hiding behind a bunch of bravado like you're some tough guy. You imagine you're superior but you're seriously lacking in world perspective.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:27PM
I'm not interested in the world much. I don't delude myself into thinking I know how best to run it. I don't aspire to that level of hubris. I leave that to those who've completed their college indoctrination^Weducation. My own little corner of it is enough to keep me busy.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday November 11 2016, @02:09AM
Yup... that sounds like Hillary!
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday November 11 2016, @02:05AM
I don't have a truck, but I can bring pizza and beer: gluten free beer and pizza. No cheese on the pizza. Is that okay?
Where'd everyone go?????
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 11 2016, @03:40AM
I dunno, man, bread and water just don't draw the crowd they used to. People, huh?
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday November 11 2016, @04:13AM
Oh no, I've got one of several exit plans already in motion. I am now unfortunately waiting on someone in Canada, and it may be a 6+ month wait, but everything else is ready. I am going, with luck, to Canada. You are going (back?) to Hell.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 11 2016, @10:56AM
Happy trails. Hope you enjoy it up there. Might I recommend Vancouver. I hear the weather's quite nice there compared to the rest of the place.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday November 11 2016, @05:45PM
Uzzard, you don't seem to be able to read the atmosphere here. Let me put this in plainer terms: This isn't a fucking joke. The country just died under us. The worst of the nation has been not only validated but mainstreamed. I am not safe here, do you understand that? For the sake of my own survival, I must leave.
And you voted for this. You cheered this on. You are drowning in the blood of innocents, some of which has ALREADY BEEN SHED NOT 3 FUCKING DAYS SINCE THE ELECTION. You will boil and writhe and flay and seethe in a sea of that blood in the next world.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 11 2016, @09:15PM
Are you still here? You sure you don't want help packing?
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday November 11 2016, @09:47PM
I'm all done, actually. Just got one open suitcase which I'm living out of. You seem to think I'm joking about this.
Keep it up, Uzzard. You've signed your soul's death warrant, or at least its "long period of inescapable torture during which you can't faint, take organ damage, or lose sensation" warrant. I'm gonna visit you in Hell with a bag full of s'mores fixins and make dessert over your steaming, smoking soul.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 11 2016, @11:35PM
No, I don't think you're joking. I simply think it's the best possible thing you're capable of doing for this country and applaud you for it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday November 12 2016, @04:36AM
You think you're really clever and funny, don't you? Gloat while you can; you and your kind have destroyed this nation from within, dealt it a mortal blow, and you will be trapped here as it chokes on its own vomit.
Sorry to disappont you but I'm not feeling the kind of panic and anxiety you probably think (or hope) I am...since election night my mind has been very clear and bizarrely calm. I've even been sleeping better and making new friends at work. I now have a concrete, achievable goal in mind, and with any luck the means to accomplish it in a reasonable timeframe, likely 6 months or so while my contact on the other side of the border gets his stuff in order to pull this off.
And as far as this site goes, I'm not leaving :) I'll continue to tweak you and point out when you are wrong, why you are wrong, how you are wrong, and that you're gonna fry in your own bile in the next world. Look for my WAN IP to change to something Canadian and you'll know when I've succeeded.
Enjoy your dying country, Uzzard. It couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 12 2016, @11:47AM
Thanks, I will.
And I don't want you feeling pain. I just want you to go. I will dance a few steps of a jig that one less person whose primary fuel is hate is in the nation.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday November 13 2016, @05:15AM
You poor fool, you have no idea what kind of hell you and your kind have condemned yourselves to. This isn't hate. It's pity and disgust and the cold, nauseous sadness of a modern-day Cassandra. I've felt this coming since that day in 2001 when I saw the smoke, close enough to smell it, rising from those buildings. That day, I knew with certainty that the country had suffered a fatal breach of its memetic immune system; I just didn't think we'd get to this point so quickly.
I'm not even surprised you think you have the moral high ground; I've known you were that broken from the moment we met :( One way or another, you will get what's coming to you...and I'm sorry for you.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday November 13 2016, @11:32AM
Nah, I'm not buying it. You've left entirely too long a trail of bile and venom on these pages for anyone to believe that nonsense. You even drop into IRC when I've been mocking you too hard with the hopes that you can annoy me. Only to find out I don't sit around refreshing the comments because I don't really care about your reply but have gone fishing and am having quite a nice day wherein you are not even a remote factor.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday November 13 2016, @10:15PM
Sometimes venom and bile are well-deserved, Uzzard. Believe me, if I actually *hated* you, you would be dead now.
If I've hurt you, I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were so incredibly weak and thin-skinned, especially not with the amount of blustering and shit-slinging you do around here. Silly me, taking you at your word and thinking you might have been half as tough as you pretend to be. Tell you what, I've got some extra Midol if you need it. And here's a tube of Preparation H, and a box of tissues. You can't have any of my tampons though; those are expensive as hell.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday November 14 2016, @01:16AM
It's flattering that you'd basically take what I said to you and try to pretty it up and say it back to me. Unfortunately you don't have the style to pull off what I say. Keep practicing and one day you may find some style of your own.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday November 14 2016, @03:31AM
Like I said, if I actually hated you you'd be dead by now. You're not as careful about infosec and PII as you think you are :)
Besides which, you don't fool anyone (except maybe yourself). For one thing, if you were actually that tough, you wouldn't keep replying to my messages. I'm being serious with them, buuuuuut I've also discovered you're fun to troll. Easy to troll, too, as basically whatever I say will get you squawking and flapping at me, even if it doesn't mention you at all.
So I think I'm going to keep ruffling your filthy feathers, Uzzard, just for what the kiddies refer to as "the lulz."
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday November 14 2016, @01:33PM
Sweety, I'm a veteran. A whiny little libtard couldn't scare me if they had an AT4 pointed at me from ten feet away.
And you don't ruffle my feathers. Nobody online does. The reason I keep replying is it's quite fun to abuse your clueless little self. You're like a pair of tits; fun to play with but anyone over thirty knows there are far more important things in the world.
Five seconds after I post this, I'll have forgotten all about this conversation in favor of coding something or looking up the solunar chart for the day to see when the fish are supposed to be biting best. Not that those charts are good at telling you if they'll be biting but they're usually damned good at telling you when they won't.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday November 14 2016, @05:53PM
Keep trying Uzzard :) Your reactions to my posts, especially the ones that don't even mention you by name, give you away. Maybe someday you'll be able to fool someone besides yourself, though on the day THAT happens Satan's gonna get his tongue stuck to a ski-lift pole...
Yeah, that settles it, I'm gonna have fun with you until you figure out just what it is you've condemned yourself to.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by RamiK on Friday November 11 2016, @03:12AM
your priorities straight
He did. That's the problem. He's a not multi-millionaire. He's a white heterosexual male that's concerned about his job security in the face of H1Bs and\or illegal immigrants.
Taking it up a notch, even the white supremacists nutters were able to surpass their brand of stupid & crazy and elect a New Yorker with Jewish grandchildren so long as he promised to take care of their economic interests.
I'm sure a lot of Trump supporters would have preferred aligning with liberals instead of the religious right. But LGBTs & pro-choice aligned themselves with big-businesses by sticking with Hillary instead of Sanders. Which left Trump no choice but sign on with the bible thumpers and Sieg Heil mobs.
If it helps, if Trump improves the economy enough, you could at least afford a plane ticket to get that abortion \ marriage license in Canada.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by jcross on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:22PM
I lost some respect for Randall over that strip. It seemed to urge the reader to go vote for Hillary while making absolutely no argument for why, as if I would base my vote on which candidate a cartoonist endorsed. If it had just been an encouragement to vote at all, that would be great. If it were entertaining or insightful in some way, that might have redeemed it some. As it was I felt it promoted little more than political tribalism.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:31PM
I pulled his strip out of my liferea feeds list over that horse shit. If I want to be told what to do it's going to be by a hot chick in leather not some stick-figure-drawing keyboard jockey.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Funny) by ikanreed on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:55PM
Haha, it's funny because you're a fickle idiot who can't handle being told they're wrong, even once.
WAHHH DISSENTING OPINION!!!!!
Why didn't you ever grow up?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:00PM
I don't mind dissenting opinions. They give me something to mock. Telling me what to do is not a dissenting opinion though. It is arrogant, elitist fuckwadery.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:10PM
If you can look at that strip and infer that he's "telling you what to do", then I fear for those around you if you decide to give in to all those other voices in your head telling you what to do.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:29PM
Mostly they argue over whether I should go fishing or have a nap.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by ikanreed on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:12PM
He didn't though. You just perceived it that way because, and I'm taking a gamble here, you are wrong about most things.
Putting "I'm with her" on his website is no different than sticking it on a bumpersticker, in that it indicates what his perspective is. He then said "go vote", which you refused to interpret as a Milquetoast suggestion almost everyone makes around election time, and instead a command to vote for his beliefs, because you primed yourself for that rage, and you searched desperately for an excuse to dislike him.
And I don't view dissent as something to mock, even if I do occasionally mock the leaps of "logic" people sometimes use, I view dissent as a chance to be wrong. And today, it's you who's so painfully wrong about so much.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:32PM
Those are some impressive mental gymnastics. Unfortunately the Russian judge only gave them a four, so your average score is only a seven.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by ikanreed on Friday November 11 2016, @12:54AM
Oh, look, more reality denial. What's it like, being so contingent on ascribing motives to others to ignore the basic facts of a situation? Does it feel endlessly frustrating, like everyone is out to get you?
(PS I'm kinda out to get you after the stupid fucking shit you've said)
Please transcribe the instructions he gave you, you stupid, lying moron.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 11 2016, @01:46AM
You make me laugh.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 11 2016, @10:53AM
You seem a bit unhinged. I don't even like Trump but this is ridiculous.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 11 2016, @12:48AM
I kept it in my rotation. I disagreed with him. Hey thats American. He made his choice.
Though in with the political climate the tea party and DNC have created I would have kept my yap shut about it. It is a good way to lose half your viewership or business. Both parties have made it acceptable to beat someone up for not thinking like them. THAT I find unacceptable.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 11 2016, @01:42AM
To a degree but as you can see in the streets this week, the regressive left is significantly worse about it.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 11 2016, @06:42AM
I am currently going through a conspiracy phase. That is all staged rage to make Trump look bad. Soros is busing people in and paying professionals to rally the troupes. Though after the revelations out of the emails it is sadly not a stretch. All of their signs are nearly identical. People are finding the craigslist posts for 10-15 an hour. People are finding 20+ buses sitting near the sites. That sort of junk does not happen in 2 days. That many buses took time to setup with those companies. They are planned events.
Honestly, for your own sanity. Just turn the news off. It has been terrible for 20+ years. I tuned out at 2000. I could not stand the propaganda anymore. That was from the station that catered TO my views. I figured out the way they made the sausage as it were funny enough from NPR and a cross country drive listening to them. They resell stories across the country then re-read the stories as if they came up with it on their own. I heard the same story 20 different times from 20 different NPR stations presenting it as their own. Conan has made good comedic effect on what they do.
I flick it on once and awhile hoping they got better. They have not (not sure they can). If you watch what they present as 'news' it is little more than talking heads giving their opinion on things. I can get that in exabytes from the internet if I am so inclined. Now that the election is over they have a major credibility problem. They bashed on the world that Trump was 'da evil' and it is impossible for him to win. Well he did. That rage you are seeing is people rebelling against the programming they put into them. Anger is the most common reaction when people find out they are wrong. They then try to put it back as they do not want to be 'that wrong'. So the staged riots are a good way for that to be done. People were starting to come to the conclusion that the media was full of it. Their next stop was to look more closely at who their leaders are. So the DNC stepped in to fill in that gap and make sure the programming sticks. Notice how the stats are carefully chosen to not blame the idiot talking heads for skewing their own data. We are suddenly supposed to believe that the idiots who got this all wrong and ignored 1/4th of the country are suddenly right and that 1/4th are raging white hillbilly rednecks who cant put two syllables together. They are showing themselves for what they are. Bullies and crybabies who did not get their way.
That is my conspiracy theory. It is silly and probably wrong. I do not blame Randal for falling for it. At least 60+ million people did. These are professional propaganda producers. Scott Adams makes a good case that they are hypnotized.
The only reason I would stop reading XKCD is the fact that he is just kinda petered out and run out of good material. He still gets a good one here and there but not much anymore.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 11 2016, @10:50AM
That's not much of a conspiracy theory given that they've already been proven to be doing exactly what you're talking about. Try throwing aliens in there somewhere or take a page from South Park and blame Canada.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:31PM
But you didn't lose respect for him because Randall is a condescending cunt who always insults the intelligence of his readers? You must be among the pseudo intellectual idiots who are his target audience.
(Score: 2) by jcross on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:49PM
I think you're assuming the amount of respect I had for him in the first place. He's occasionally entertaining is about the level I was at before. Can you give some examples of other ways he insults the intelligence of his readers?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:26PM
who always insults the intelligence of his readers?
If you constantly find your intelligence being insulted, maybe it is time to upgrade your intelligence! Complaining about being insulted for being stupid as an excuse for remaining stupid is a curiously unintelligible position to take. Remember, Jesus can forgive your sins, but he can't do much about stupid.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday November 11 2016, @02:25AM
Isn't there something about Jesus also being God, and God being "oooh, you are sooo big" and all powerful: shouldn't he be able to do SOMETHING about stupid?
I am an atheist, though, so could be wrong.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---