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posted by martyb on Thursday November 10 2016, @09:45PM   Printer-friendly
from the revenge-of-the-nerds? dept.

President-elect Donald Trump realized early in his campaign that U.S. IT workers were angry over training foreign visa-holding replacements. He knew this anger was volcanic.

Trump is the first major U.S. presidential candidate in this race -- or any previous presidential race -- to focus on the use of the H-1B visa to displace IT workers. He asked former Disney IT employees, upset over having to train foreign replacements, to speak at his rallies.

"The fact is that Americans are losing their jobs to foreigners," said Dena Moore, a former Disney IT worker at a Trump rally in Alabama in February. "I believe Mr. Trump is for Americans first."

Yes, US nerds were angry about training H-1B replacements, but how much could they have helped put him over the top?


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by jcross on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:22PM

    by jcross (4009) on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:22PM (#425369)

    I lost some respect for Randall over that strip. It seemed to urge the reader to go vote for Hillary while making absolutely no argument for why, as if I would base my vote on which candidate a cartoonist endorsed. If it had just been an encouragement to vote at all, that would be great. If it were entertaining or insightful in some way, that might have redeemed it some. As it was I felt it promoted little more than political tribalism.

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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:31PM

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:31PM (#425377) Homepage Journal

    I pulled his strip out of my liferea feeds list over that horse shit. If I want to be told what to do it's going to be by a hot chick in leather not some stick-figure-drawing keyboard jockey.

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    • (Score: 2, Funny) by ikanreed on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:55PM

      by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:55PM (#425402) Journal

      Haha, it's funny because you're a fickle idiot who can't handle being told they're wrong, even once.

      WAHHH DISSENTING OPINION!!!!!

      Why didn't you ever grow up?

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:00PM

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:00PM (#425407) Homepage Journal

        I don't mind dissenting opinions. They give me something to mock. Telling me what to do is not a dissenting opinion though. It is arrogant, elitist fuckwadery.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:10PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:10PM (#425419)

          If you can look at that strip and infer that he's "telling you what to do", then I fear for those around you if you decide to give in to all those other voices in your head telling you what to do.

        • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by ikanreed on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:12PM

          by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:12PM (#425423) Journal

          He didn't though. You just perceived it that way because, and I'm taking a gamble here, you are wrong about most things.

          Putting "I'm with her" on his website is no different than sticking it on a bumpersticker, in that it indicates what his perspective is. He then said "go vote", which you refused to interpret as a Milquetoast suggestion almost everyone makes around election time, and instead a command to vote for his beliefs, because you primed yourself for that rage, and you searched desperately for an excuse to dislike him.

          And I don't view dissent as something to mock, even if I do occasionally mock the leaps of "logic" people sometimes use, I view dissent as a chance to be wrong. And today, it's you who's so painfully wrong about so much.

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:32PM

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:32PM (#425444) Homepage Journal

            Those are some impressive mental gymnastics. Unfortunately the Russian judge only gave them a four, so your average score is only a seven.

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            • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Friday November 11 2016, @12:54AM

              by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 11 2016, @12:54AM (#425491) Journal

              Oh, look, more reality denial. What's it like, being so contingent on ascribing motives to others to ignore the basic facts of a situation? Does it feel endlessly frustrating, like everyone is out to get you?

              (PS I'm kinda out to get you after the stupid fucking shit you've said)

              Please transcribe the instructions he gave you, you stupid, lying moron.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 11 2016, @10:53AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 11 2016, @10:53AM (#425628)

        You seem a bit unhinged. I don't even like Trump but this is ridiculous.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 11 2016, @12:48AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 11 2016, @12:48AM (#425486)

      I kept it in my rotation. I disagreed with him. Hey thats American. He made his choice.

      Though in with the political climate the tea party and DNC have created I would have kept my yap shut about it. It is a good way to lose half your viewership or business. Both parties have made it acceptable to beat someone up for not thinking like them. THAT I find unacceptable.

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 11 2016, @01:42AM

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday November 11 2016, @01:42AM (#425514) Homepage Journal

        To a degree but as you can see in the streets this week, the regressive left is significantly worse about it.

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        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 11 2016, @06:42AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 11 2016, @06:42AM (#425588)

          I am currently going through a conspiracy phase. That is all staged rage to make Trump look bad. Soros is busing people in and paying professionals to rally the troupes. Though after the revelations out of the emails it is sadly not a stretch. All of their signs are nearly identical. People are finding the craigslist posts for 10-15 an hour. People are finding 20+ buses sitting near the sites. That sort of junk does not happen in 2 days. That many buses took time to setup with those companies. They are planned events.

          Honestly, for your own sanity. Just turn the news off. It has been terrible for 20+ years. I tuned out at 2000. I could not stand the propaganda anymore. That was from the station that catered TO my views. I figured out the way they made the sausage as it were funny enough from NPR and a cross country drive listening to them. They resell stories across the country then re-read the stories as if they came up with it on their own. I heard the same story 20 different times from 20 different NPR stations presenting it as their own. Conan has made good comedic effect on what they do.

          I flick it on once and awhile hoping they got better. They have not (not sure they can). If you watch what they present as 'news' it is little more than talking heads giving their opinion on things. I can get that in exabytes from the internet if I am so inclined. Now that the election is over they have a major credibility problem. They bashed on the world that Trump was 'da evil' and it is impossible for him to win. Well he did. That rage you are seeing is people rebelling against the programming they put into them. Anger is the most common reaction when people find out they are wrong. They then try to put it back as they do not want to be 'that wrong'. So the staged riots are a good way for that to be done. People were starting to come to the conclusion that the media was full of it. Their next stop was to look more closely at who their leaders are. So the DNC stepped in to fill in that gap and make sure the programming sticks. Notice how the stats are carefully chosen to not blame the idiot talking heads for skewing their own data. We are suddenly supposed to believe that the idiots who got this all wrong and ignored 1/4th of the country are suddenly right and that 1/4th are raging white hillbilly rednecks who cant put two syllables together. They are showing themselves for what they are. Bullies and crybabies who did not get their way.

          That is my conspiracy theory. It is silly and probably wrong. I do not blame Randal for falling for it. At least 60+ million people did. These are professional propaganda producers. Scott Adams makes a good case that they are hypnotized.

          The only reason I would stop reading XKCD is the fact that he is just kinda petered out and run out of good material. He still gets a good one here and there but not much anymore.

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 11 2016, @10:50AM

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday November 11 2016, @10:50AM (#425626) Homepage Journal

            That's not much of a conspiracy theory given that they've already been proven to be doing exactly what you're talking about. Try throwing aliens in there somewhere or take a page from South Park and blame Canada.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:31PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:31PM (#425378)

    But you didn't lose respect for him because Randall is a condescending cunt who always insults the intelligence of his readers? You must be among the pseudo intellectual idiots who are his target audience.

    • (Score: 2) by jcross on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:49PM

      by jcross (4009) on Thursday November 10 2016, @10:49PM (#425395)

      I think you're assuming the amount of respect I had for him in the first place. He's occasionally entertaining is about the level I was at before. Can you give some examples of other ways he insults the intelligence of his readers?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:26PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 10 2016, @11:26PM (#425438)

      who always insults the intelligence of his readers?

      If you constantly find your intelligence being insulted, maybe it is time to upgrade your intelligence! Complaining about being insulted for being stupid as an excuse for remaining stupid is a curiously unintelligible position to take. Remember, Jesus can forgive your sins, but he can't do much about stupid.

      • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday November 11 2016, @02:25AM

        by Gaaark (41) on Friday November 11 2016, @02:25AM (#425531) Journal

        Isn't there something about Jesus also being God, and God being "oooh, you are sooo big" and all powerful: shouldn't he be able to do SOMETHING about stupid?

        I am an atheist, though, so could be wrong.

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