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on Wednesday November 16 2016, @12:17AM
from the truth-and-nothing-but-the-truth dept.
from the truth-and-nothing-but-the-truth dept.
Despite the best efforts of Mark Zuckerberg to downplay Facebook's role in the election of Donald Trump, the scrutiny of how fake news is spread on the platform has intensified.
Buzzfeed News is reporting that "more than dozens" of Facebook employees have created an unofficial task force dedicated to addressing the issue.
Buzzfeed quoted one member of that task force, who did not want to be named over fears for their job.
"[Mark Zuckerberg] knows, and those of us at the company know, that fake news ran wild on our platform during the entire campaign season," the source said.
The election shook out the way it did because there were ways around the narrative the media was pushing?
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Everyone hates me because I'm paranoid.
(Score: 4, Informative) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday November 16 2016, @01:20AM
If enough people repeat it, it gains credibility in the public perception, regardless of how baseless the speakers claims are.
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(Score: 4, Insightful) by bob_super on Wednesday November 16 2016, @01:36AM
Conversely, show people video proof of their candidate's outright lies/flip-flop and they will deny it or get out of their way to justify it (or plain counter-attack).
The level of delusion during this campaign had all but a few of the foreigners I know absolutely aghast. I'm sure many Middle-East warring tribes are nowhere near as blind to their own reality.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday November 16 2016, @02:23AM
The graft, corruption, and two-faceness has always been there, back to the days of the founding fathers - it's how business was/is done at those levels.
What's different today is that there's enough transparency and reporting that it's starting to show through... we need to find a way to transition from the old ways to something that's more acceptable to everyone when the truth comes out, because the truth is: there are no viable candidates - they either lack the (true) character we desire, or the political power to do what we want, or basic ability to formulate position statements that will avoid chaotic disaster if implemented, or all of the above.
It would be gratifying to see a more transparent and accountable political structure emerge in my lifetime, but I doubt it will come that quickly, I only have 50 or so years left.
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(Score: 5, Informative) by jmorris on Wednesday November 16 2016, @02:40AM
No. I see what you are trying to do there and ain't buyin' it. Is it an axiom that any politician is probably a bit crooked when elected and will grow more so over time in office? Yes. But don't you even dare try the 'they all do it so let he who is without sin cast the first stone' bullshit after the whole new levels of corruption WikiLeaks revealed about the Clintons. Treason, Pay For Play / bribery on a scale yet unseen and if the Spirit Cooking and "pizza" rumors on Reddit are even 1% true we are dealing with Elemental Evil on a level that needs purging with fire.
Go read Most Damaging WikiLeaks [mostdamagingwikileaks.com] and revise and extend your remarks.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 16 2016, @05:08AM
> if the Spirit Cooking and "pizza" rumors on Reddit are even 1% true we are dealing with Elemental Evil on a level that needs purging with fire.
I forget, are you the christian freak or the libertarian freak?
I get you and jdavidb mixed up all the time. I guess its the j. And the crazy. It all blends together.
But I'm gonna guess you are the christian freak. Right?
Because only a total fundie would believe that "spirit cooking" bullshit. [snopes.com]
Like all conspiracy theorists, you are the biggest sheeple of them all, easily persuaded because you are already untethered from reality.
> Go read Most Damaging WikiLeak
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Can't really take them seriously if they can't get the basics down.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday November 16 2016, @03:23PM
We've gone from shady real-estate dealing lawyers, to the son of a former president who's clearly in bed with his home district's top money spinners, so much so as to embroil the country in a years long war, to a Chicago machine politician, now to choosing an Atlantic City casino owner who bankrupts his businesses as strategy and openly flaunts paying his taxes, because what we've learned about the shady lawyers after 20+ years in the spotlight was so unpalatable that the Casino boss looked better.
I'm not choosing sides - any side I might choose has too little political power to get anything meaningful done. 5 more decades and I'm out, it's my kids' problem then.
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(Score: 2) by bob_super on Wednesday November 16 2016, @05:14PM
> I'm not choosing sides (...) 5 more decades and I'm out, it's my kids' problem then.
Giving up when the clock is against you is wise. Who's ever accomplished anything in less than 50 years?
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday November 16 2016, @07:02PM
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 16 2016, @05:24PM
You understand the realistic perspective and analysis of the GP? There wasn't even anything to really argue with!! Hmmm, jmo you are a special kind of special. The kind I especially don't want to be around.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 16 2016, @03:07AM
That' is because we are wired that way. Credibility by consensus, it works quite a lot, but its failures are quite spectacular.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 16 2016, @03:29AM
Credibility by evidence works even better.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday November 16 2016, @03:26PM
How credible is a source labeled "Anonymous Coward"?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 16 2016, @11:22PM
Dunno. Maybe that's why it's a good idea to do your own fact checking? Just an idea.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Wednesday November 16 2016, @05:55AM
Shh!
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Very quiet!
We don't want this to get out.
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Donald has a vestigial tail. True! Twenty seven Miss Universes have seen it! And it wiggles when . . . some things we don't want to know.
(Score: 2) by dyingtolive on Wednesday November 16 2016, @06:11AM
If enough people repeat it, it gains credibility in the public perception, regardless of how baseless the speakers claims are..
Don't blame me, I voted for moose wang!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by isostatic on Wednesday November 16 2016, @08:45AM
To really get credibility you have to paint your lie on the side of a bus and get everyone constantly talking about what a big lie it is. You can admit it's a lie and people will still believe it.
(Score: 2) by turgid on Wednesday November 16 2016, @07:49PM
£350M/week.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].