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Debian Has Entered "Transition Freeze" for Squeeze

posted by cmn32480 on Thursday November 17 2016, @04:32PM   Printer-friendly
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mrpg writes:

Debian has entered "Transition freeze".

Transition freeze ... means no new library transitions or package transitions that involve a large number of packages.
Full freeze: Feb 5 2017.

As always, Debian 9 "Stretch" will be released "when it's ready".

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Unixnut on Thursday November 17 2016, @05:41PM

    by Unixnut (5779) on Thursday November 17 2016, @05:41PM (#428216)

    > If you don't like systemd you're on devuan. If you need quick and easy installation and lots of packages you're on ubuntu

    And both draw heavily on Debian, neither are a pure fork, and rely on the core for stuff. Ubuntu less so than Devuan, but I know for a fact Ubuntu still tracks and uses Debian security repositories. This doesn't even touch all the niche distros that are based on Debian as well.

    Much as I may lambaste them for their recent moves into systemD and other stuff, you cannot deny they are still quite important.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by krait6 on Thursday November 17 2016, @05:56PM

    by krait6 (5170) on Thursday November 17 2016, @05:56PM (#428223)

    Much as I may lambaste them for their recent moves into systemD and other stuff, you cannot deny they are still quite important.

    BTW: on Debian systemd is installed by default at installation time, but it can be installed without systemd:

    https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installing_without_systemd [debian.org]

    or systemd can be removed after installation:

    https://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/117634-gnu-linux-debian-without-systemd [spiceworks.com]
    http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation [without-systemd.org]

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 17 2016, @07:50PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 17 2016, @07:50PM (#428297)

      Do this still hold up in Squeeze?

      And also, it is hardly installing without systemd. What is happening is that debian, with systemd, gets installed, and then an additional command is run that installs sysv. Because the two conflicts, apt will then strip out systemd again, and anything that depend on that specific package. You can't pick between systemd and sysv within the installer.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 17 2016, @07:46PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 17 2016, @07:46PM (#428290)

    Could have sworn that Devuan is aiming to be self-sufficient at some point.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 18 2016, @09:22AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 18 2016, @09:22AM (#428758)

      Might be. They also aimed to release a good 1.5 years ago ("This distribution should be ready about the time Debian Jessie is
      ready"), see https://devuan.org/os/debian-fork/ [devuan.org]
      I guess talk is cheap ;)