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posted by janrinok on Thursday November 17 2016, @07:33PM   Printer-friendly
from the what-is-your-vote-worth? dept.

Senator Boxer Introduces Bill to Eliminate Electoral College

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Senator-Boxer-to-Introduce-Bill-to-Eliminate-Electoral-College--401314945.html

"This is the only office in the land where you can get more votes and still lose the presidency," Boxer said in a statement. "The Electoral College is an outdated, undemocratic system that does not reflect our modern society, and it needs to change immediately. Every American should be guaranteed that their vote counts."

[...] "When all the ballots are counted, Hillary Clinton will have won the popular vote by a margin that could exceed two million votes, and she is on track to have received more votes than any other presidential candidate in history except Barack Obama," Boxer said.

Trump will be the fifth president in U.S. history to win the election despite losing the popular vote. George W. Bush won the most recent such election, in 2000.

Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3wLQz-LgrM


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by jmorris on Thursday November 17 2016, @10:39PM

    by jmorris (4844) on Thursday November 17 2016, @10:39PM (#428440)

    Yup. But of course NOTICING the flip would get you branded "Fake News" and cast out by Google and Facebook's ad networks and your Twitter account closed out.

    They think they can still play these games. After just having their noses rubbed in it, their response is to lie harder, point and shriek louder, double down again and tell everyone ELSE that they are the real haters and racists. In a few months when Twitter has joined MySpace in the history books, FaceBook is bleeding users and even mighty Google is worried about the impact on their stock valuation, they will double down yet again with the entire media and celebrity world joining in the shunning. Eventually they will either learn and change tactics or be replaced with better, smarter, more effective forces of darkness. Before that happens we should gleefully roll up yardage. NO mercy. NO quarter. NO stopping. This train has no brakes.

    Yes we should show mercy to defeated enemies. But only after they surrender, after they have their "Hitler in the bunker" moment and the survivors ask for mercy; and that won't happen for years. Most of them think this was just a setback, Trump will soon implode and the Arc of History will keep right on bending toward the Sunny Uplands. So any RINO cuck who counsels mercy, bipartisanship or compromise should be marked down as someone to ignore in all future decisions.

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  • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Friday November 18 2016, @04:23AM

    by Reziac (2489) on Friday November 18 2016, @04:23AM (#428653) Homepage

    Translation: we only like the Electoral College when it tilts things so OUR candidate wins.

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    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday November 18 2016, @01:23PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday November 18 2016, @01:23PM (#428812) Journal

      Exactly, and because the media screwed the pooch so badly in this election they're flailing about for any other kind of scapegoat they can flog, which means they're not going to shut up about it until they've bullied Google and Facebook into censors that block any kind of wrongthink they flag, purged the FBI for having tried to apply the law equally to the avatars of the Establishment, and put up abolition of the Electoral College as a constitutional amendment.

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      • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Friday November 18 2016, @02:31PM

        by Reziac (2489) on Friday November 18 2016, @02:31PM (#428829) Homepage

        I note you left Twitter out of the list of future actions... of course, there censorship is already present-reality.

        And good luck getting three quarters of the Several States to pass that Constitutional amendment. Bwahahaahahaha from Flyover Country!

        Hey! I'm all for abolishing the present system too. The Electoral College should get its votes from the county level, so the average man is better-represented. One county, one vote. ;)

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 18 2016, @08:03PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 18 2016, @08:03PM (#429072)
      I wouldn't say it tilted things, Obama might have won despite the Electoral college. But the important thing is that Obama won twice with practically the same Electoral College system. As for racism, Obama does look more like a black person than Clinton. And there were plenty going about saying that Obama was born outside the USA.

      So basically a black guy does better vs some non-Trump white guy than Hillary Clinton does vs Trump, and they blame the system?

      If you lose to someone like Trump, you should be ashamed of yourself and figuring out the real reason why you lost.

      Getting rid of the electoral college and going for popular vote is a stupid idea unless you want many states to secede. As for direct democracy, maybe if the voters are well educated otherwise that's as stupid as having millions of mostly stupid and ignorant people vote on whether to turn the steering wheel of their country right or left on a daily basis instead of voting for a driver every few years.